Dear Monica,
Well, kettle and pot comes to mind! But seriously, I'm certainly happy
to admit that I was wrong in this case by expecting a personal email to
remain private. This is the whole point of my last message which, I'm
very sorry to say, you have avoided addressing. Whether I know Anton
Hoger (I don't) and his work (only what's on ISMLP) is wholly
immaterial to this matter.
And finally, how is it wrong to suggest to someone that there may be
other ways to achieve what they may be wishing to do? And how is it
wrong to do this privately and so avoiding (or trying to) any personal
embarrassment and ridiculous slanging matches?
regards,
Martyn
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From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: LutList <[email protected]>
Cc: Martyn Hodgson <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, 5 August 2016, 17:41
Subject: Fw: Protocol was Re: [LUTE] Privacy
Clearly this is going to run and run as Martyn can never admit that he
might be in the wrong.
As far as I am aware Martyn does not know Anton personally, knows
nothing about him or his work, doesn't understand why he is doing it or
why he sends messages to the list to draw attention to it.
I think it was officious and patronising of Martyn to contact Anton off
the list and say to him - if this is what he did say
"Have you ever considered learning to play from figured bass? This
would save
you much mundane work making these unnecessary
transcriptions/arrangements".
Anton is a professional player and doesn't need any advice from Martyn.
Other people certainly don't think that Anton's transcriptions are
unnecessry.
If what you want to say is not suitable to be said in public perhaps
you should ask yourself what right you have to contact someone whom you
have never met and say it to them in private.
That seems like harassment to me.
As ever
Monica
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From: [1][email protected]
Date: 05/08/2016 12:38
To: "[2][email protected]"<[3][email protected]>,
"[4][email protected].
uk"<[5][email protected]>
Subj: Fw: Protocol was Re: [LUTE] Privacy
Dear Monica,
Well, to be clear, I didn't wish to say anything on the open list
since, knowing how some may take any suggestion, even if meant
helpfully (as explained in my longer subsequent posting), as a slight,
a private rather than public message was thought more appropriate in
this case. Just because someone's name is on this list doesn't prohibit
one from conducting private communications if considered more
appropriate (and tactful..........).
In general I think the usual protocol is probably the wisest to follow:
a personal message is just that. Ralf Mattes well sets this out in his
message yesterday.
And yes, if we think it more appropriate to discuss things personally
with another individual list member (who we may already know anyway)
then I can see no problem with that. Indeed, some of the more useful
and helpful messages I receive from time to time are by from individual
list members not copied to the entire list. Horses for courses I
think..........
regards,
Martyn.
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From: "[6][email protected]" <[7][email protected]>
To: LutList <[8][email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, 4 August 2016, 15:31
Subject: [LUTE] Privacy
I think that what I was trying to say has been misconstrued - as is
often the case with these arguments.
If you are on Facebook - or Earlyguitar.ning people can only contact
you directly if you accept them as friends.
This list is different. Anyone can join, there is no moderator, nobody
decides who may join. That means that everyone on the list has access
to everyone else's e-mails. This facility should not be abused.
As I understand it Martyn contacted Anton after he had posted details
of his latest intabulations on this list. If Martyn has anything
helpful to say that might help Anton to make his work even more useful
than it is already - and a lot of people do find it very useful and are
grateful to him for posting the details - then why not say it here. We
have discussed this before.
Does being on this list mean that anyone is entitled to engage in a
one-
to-one correspondence with you?
Better leave it at that as this will probably be misconstrued too.
Monica
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