Thanks, I think I get it about the switching TCP/IP. I still wonder why copying the whole drive from 9 to 10 was sooo quick and now from 10 to 9 it is sooooo slow. It has copied only 29.5MB of 1.3GB in about 35 mins. Says I have now 34 hours to go!!! Ouch indeed! But why the difference in directions I wonder?
Ann Bryan Forrest wrote: > If it were OS 9 to OS 9, no, you could leave TCP/IP on PPP and connect > only by AppleTalk via Ethernet. That's the way my father's network is > set up - TCP/IP set to PPP and filesharing via AppleTalk over > Ethernet. But, since one of the computers is running OS X, you'll have > to change your TCP/IP settings to do the transfer. Apple is dropping > support for AppleTalk in OS X, limiting it to broadcasting the > computer address (i.e., the computer stands up and says "Hi, my name > is Bob and I'm a Macintosh." /Hi Bob./) and then shifting the data > transfer to TCP/IP. > > Hopefully, your transfer's about done and you aren't sitting watching > the clock work its way down from 29 hours (OUCH!). You'll see the time > fluctuate if there are lots of little files to copy, as small files > are transferred less efficiently than larger files. Let me know how it > goes and glad I could help! > > Bryan Forrest > Macintosh Specialist > LifeNet > http://www.lifenet.org > > On Nov 13, 2003, at 8:04 AM, Ann Richmond wrote: > > Bryan, > Sorry to be so long getting back on this... > I did get the IP addresses set right and was able to back up the > laptop via ethernet to the iMac. It took about 30 mins. > Now I am needing to copy the previously saved whole hard drive > back to the other laptop. It is doing it but says it will take > 29hours? Why would it be so much longer in the other direction? > same cables, hub, OSs etc? Or maybe it lies and it isn't really > going to take that long... > Hope springs.... > Thanks for all your help. > Oh, Am I getting something confused or do I really have to change > the TCP/IP settings every time I want to use ethernet for the > local network or use it for PPP and the dial up modem? > > Ann > > Bryan Forrest wrote: > > Ann, > > Are you able to log into the 10.1 computer via IP address? On > the OS 9 computer, open the chooser, click on AppleShare and a > button will appear at the bottom right of the Chooser stating > "Server IP Address." Click that button, enter the IP address > of your 10.1 computer and click Connect. Same results? Different? > > Bryan C. Forrest > Macintosh Specialist > LifeNet > http://www.lifenet.org > > On Oct 10, 2003, at 8:11 AM, Ann Richmond wrote: > > Hi again, > > I have confirmed both tcp/ip and appletalk are set to > ethernet. File sharing is on. Hard drive selected (whole > thing). > I don't think the problem is with the OS 9 machines as > they share among themselves just fine. > I can't seem to get access to the OS 10 iMac beyond seeing > it in chooser, selecting it, and being asked for password, > entering it, then getting the message "the connection to > this server has been unexpectedly broken". I find the OS > 10 permissions and multiple user stuff to be a huge pain > in my ability to cope. Could it have something to do with > those things? I am signed in as the administrator and my > password is correct. Sharing is on. The hard drive is the > selected file to share. > I would be happy to mount the G3 laptop's hard drive on > the OS 10 desktop (that is all I really want to do so I > can back it up) but I can't get that far. Do you have any > suggestions for doing that? > > Thanks, > Ann > > Ward Oldham wrote: > > Hi Ann, > > Confirm that both your TCP/IP control panel and your > appletalk control panel are both set to ethernet. > Confirm that you've done both actions for sharing > content under OS 9: 1-Turn File Sharing on. 2-Select > folder(s) you wish to share and select "Sharing" from > under the File menu. Check the appropriate boxes and > you're done. > > If you continue to have problems, you may want to try > the basics: > Run diagnostics, repair directory damage > Delete/Replace damaged files > Try starting up with "OS 9 all" extensions only. Does > it work? > (if so, troubleshoot problem third party > extensions/control panels) > (if not? Check cables and consider performing a clean > system install) > > Your workaround solution is to mount the OS 9 hard > disks on the OS X Mac?s desktop. > > Good Luck, > Ward > > Ward Oldham, MacDude > MacTown > 1041 Bardstown Road > Louisville, KY 40204 > 502-485-1243 > ward at mactown.us > http://www.mactown.us > > > From: Ann Richmond <richmond at qx.net> > Reply-To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu > Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 18:49:10 -0400 > To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu > Subject: Re: MacGroup: OS 10.1 > > Ward, > > Thanks for the suggestions (some time ago. I am > just getting around to > this again!). > I have turned on File Sharing in the iMac and > designated the hard disk > to share. > It can be seen in Chooser from any of the other > computers on the > network. I just can't figure out what it means > when I select it in either OS 9 computer, Chooser > accepts it, then it > asks for user name and password which I enter > correctly. Immediately I > get a message saying that" the connection has been > unexpectedly broken. > "The password is right. Obviously Appletalk is > working or I couldn't get > that far.... > I still can't see any of the other computers from > the iMac. I guess I am > looking in the right place. servers on the > preferences? > > Thanks again, > Ann > > > Ward Oldham wrote: > > Hi Ann, > > Check on both the PM 9600 and the Powerbook in > your File Sharing control > panel and enable sharing via TCP/IP if it > isn't already. Also, make sure > your Appletalk control panel and your TCP/IP > control panels are set to > connect via ethernet. > > Now to see these Macs from your OS X iMac, > sharing needs to be > > > turned on but > > you also have to designate a hard disk, folder > or folders to be > > > shared as > > well. Just turning on File Sharing doesn't do > the trick. > > > Ward Oldham, MacDude > MacTown > 1041 Bardstown Road > Louisville, KY 40204 > 502-485-1243 > ward at mactown.us > http://www.mactown.us > > > > > From: Ann Richmond <richmond at qx.net> > Reply-To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu > Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 23:10:19 -0400 > To: Macgroup Macgroup > <macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> > Subject: MacGroup: OS 10.1 > > I got the G3 powerbook to work on the > network. I have no idea what > finally did it. > > Now my daughter has done something in the > iMac (flat panel, OS 10.1) > which has made it not function on the > network. On the 9600 and the > Powerbook the iMac appears in the chooser > window. When I select it in > either computer it asks for user name and > password which I enter > correctly. Immediately I get a message > saying that the connection has > been broken. > When on the iMac I open 'connect to > servers' in the 'Go' menu, I see no > other computers at all. Chooser and > Appletalk I can usually muddle > through. , but I am completely clueless in > OS10. > > Suggestions would be gratefully received. > > Thanks, > Ann Richmond > > > > | The next meeting of the Louisville > Computer Society will > | be August 26. The LCS Web page is > <http://www.kymac.org>. > | This list's page is > <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>. > > > > > > | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer > Society will > | be August 26. The LCS Web page is > <http://www.kymac.org>. > | This list's page is > <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>. > > > > > > > | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer > Society will > | be October 26. 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