You can assign IP addresses to each of your computers if you wish. I think the connection problem you are seeing is a result of a problem with Netatalk, the unix utility that controls Appletalk networking, on your OS X computer. I've seen similar errors in Macs trying to connect to Linux computers running Netatalk.
In the OS 9 computers, open the TCP/IP control panel. You probably have it set to connect via Ethernet using DHCP, or Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol. In English, this simply means that your computer is going to look for a DHCP server to provide it's IP address. If it can't find one, it will self-assign an address in the 169.254.x.x range. You can change DHCP to Manually, and then you can enter the following information: IP Address: 10.0.0.1 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Gateway address: 10.0.0.1 Close the window and save your settings. On the OS X box, open the Network preference pane, and select Ethernet. I think it has a TCP/IP tab, which you can click. Again, it's probably set to DHCP. Change to Manually and enter the following information: IP Address: 10.0.0.2 Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 Gateway address: 10.0.0.1 Click the Apply button to save changes. Now as you can see, both computers are on the same network, with different addresses... think of two houses on the same street. From the OS 9 chooser, you can click the Server IP Address button and enter the IP of the 10.1 computer - 10.0.0.2. You should get a dialogue box prompting you to log into the OS X computer. I know this may look a little scary, but it's pretty harmless. An IP address is simply a unique numeric address that allows communication between computers. Similar to phone numbers or street addresses, they go from most general on the left to most specific on the right. Think about a phone number - 502-555-1234. 502 is the broadest category, showing you are in western Kentucky; 555 would show the general area you were in within western Kentucky; and 1234 would narrow it down to your particular residence. IP addresses work similarly, drilling down through the ISP's network to focus on your particular computer. Let me know if you have any questions... Bryan C. Forrest Macintosh Specialist LifeNet http://www.lifenet.org On Friday, October 10, 2003, at 08:54 AM, Ann Richmond wrote: > Bryan, > I wouldn't know an IP address if it bit me. I have never used them. I > usually just double click on the displayed computer names in chooser > after I have clicked Appleshare. It opens a dislog box asking for > password and name and that's it. How is IP address different. Who > assigns the IP address? If it is me how do I know what address to give > them? These are computers on a home network. > Thanks, > Ann > Bryan Forrest wrote: > >> Ann, >> >> Are you able to log into the 10.1 computer via IP address? On the OS >> 9 computer, open the chooser, click on AppleShare and a button will >> appear at the bottom right of the Chooser stating "Server IP >> Address." Click that button, enter the IP address of your 10.1 >> computer and click Connect. Same results? Different? >> >> Bryan C. Forrest >> Macintosh Specialist >> LifeNet >> http://www.lifenet.org >> >> On Oct 10, 2003, at 8:11 AM, Ann Richmond wrote: >> >>> Hi again, >>> >>> I have confirmed both tcp/ip and appletalk are set to ethernet. File >>> sharing is on. Hard drive selected (whole thing). >>> I don't think the problem is with the OS 9 machines as they share >>> among themselves just fine. >>> I can't seem to get access to the OS 10 iMac beyond seeing it in >>> chooser, selecting it, and being asked for password, entering it, >>> then getting the message "the connection to this server has been >>> unexpectedly broken". I find the OS 10 permissions and multiple user >>> stuff to be a huge pain in my ability to cope. Could it have >>> something to do with those things? I am signed in as the >>> administrator and my password is correct. Sharing is on. The hard >>> drive is the selected file to share. >>> I would be happy to mount the G3 laptop's hard drive on the OS 10 >>> desktop (that is all I really want to do so I can back it up) but I >>> can't get that far. Do you have any suggestions for doing that? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ann >>> >>> Ward Oldham wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Ann, >>>> >>>> Confirm that both your TCP/IP control panel and your appletalk >>>> control panel are both set to ethernet. Confirm that you've done >>>> both actions for sharing content under OS 9: 1-Turn File Sharing >>>> on. 2-Select folder(s) you wish to share and select "Sharing" from >>>> under the File menu. Check the appropriate boxes and you're done. >>>> >>>> If you continue to have problems, you may want to try the basics: >>>> Run diagnostics, repair directory damage >>>> Delete/Replace damaged files >>>> Try starting up with "OS 9 all" extensions only. Does it work? >>>> (if so, troubleshoot problem third party extensions/control panels) >>>> (if not? Check cables and consider performing a clean system >>>> install) >>>> >>>> Your workaround solution is to mount the OS 9 hard disks on the OS >>>> X Mac?s desktop. >>>> >>>> Good Luck, >>>> Ward >>>> >>>> Ward Oldham, MacDude >>>> MacTown >>>> 1041 Bardstown Road >>>> Louisville, KY 40204 >>>> 502-485-1243 >>>> ward at mactown.us >>>> http://www.mactown.us >>>> >>>> >>>>> From: Ann Richmond <richmond at qx.net> >>>>> Reply-To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu >>>>> Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 18:49:10 -0400 >>>>> To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu >>>>> Subject: Re: MacGroup: OS 10.1 >>>>> >>>>> Ward, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for the suggestions (some time ago. I am just getting >>>>> around to >>>>> this again!). >>>>> I have turned on File Sharing in the iMac and designated the hard >>>>> disk >>>>> to share. >>>>> It can be seen in Chooser from any of the other computers on the >>>>> network. I just can't figure out what it means >>>>> when I select it in either OS 9 computer, Chooser accepts it, then >>>>> it >>>>> asks for user name and password which I enter correctly. >>>>> Immediately I >>>>> get a message saying that" the connection has been unexpectedly >>>>> broken. >>>>> "The password is right. Obviously Appletalk is working or I >>>>> couldn't get >>>>> that far.... >>>>> I still can't see any of the other computers from the iMac. I >>>>> guess I am >>>>> looking in the right place. servers on the preferences? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks again, >>>>> Ann >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ward Oldham wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Ann, >>>>>> >>>>>> Check on both the PM 9600 and the Powerbook in your File Sharing >>>>>> control >>>>>> panel and enable sharing via TCP/IP if it isn't already. Also, >>>>>> make sure >>>>>> your Appletalk control panel and your TCP/IP control panels are >>>>>> set to >>>>>> connect via ethernet. >>>>>> >>>>>> Now to see these Macs from your OS X iMac, sharing needs to be >>>>> >>>> turned on but >>>> >>>>>> you also have to designate a hard disk, folder or folders to be >>>>> >>>> shared as >>>> >>>>>> well. Just turning on File Sharing doesn't do the trick. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Ward Oldham, MacDude >>>>>> MacTown >>>>>> 1041 Bardstown Road >>>>>> Louisville, KY 40204 >>>>>> 502-485-1243 >>>>>> ward at mactown.us >>>>>> http://www.mactown.us >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> From: Ann Richmond <richmond at qx.net> >>>>>>> Reply-To: macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu >>>>>>> Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 23:10:19 -0400 >>>>>>> To: Macgroup Macgroup <macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> >>>>>>> Subject: MacGroup: OS 10.1 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I got the G3 powerbook to work on the network. I have no idea >>>>>>> what >>>>>>> finally did it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Now my daughter has done something in the iMac (flat panel, OS >>>>>>> 10.1) >>>>>>> which has made it not function on the network. On the 9600 and >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> Powerbook the iMac appears in the chooser window. When I select >>>>>>> it in >>>>>>> either computer it asks for user name and password which I enter >>>>>>> correctly. Immediately I get a message saying that the >>>>>>> connection has >>>>>>> been broken. >>>>>>> When on the iMac I open 'connect to servers' in the 'Go' menu, I >>>>>>> see no >>>>>>> other computers at all. Chooser and Appletalk I can usually >>>>>>> muddle >>>>>>> through. , but I am completely clueless in OS10. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Suggestions would be gratefully received. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Ann Richmond >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will >>>>>>> | be August 26. 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