I just laugh at the person when he writes the messages which people don't like. I don't care what he says. He does not worry me. I laugh and then I delete.
> On 26 Aug 2015, at 10:48 pm, Rich Ring <[email protected]> wrote: > > I am aware of who the individual who seems to like to get peoples feelings > stirred up is, and since I know where my delete key is, I have no problem > with this individual. This individual comes and goes, and unless excluded, > he’ll be back! However, my delete key is a constant, not a variable, > although, I read some of his messages because I kind of enjoy the absurd! > This is, overall, an extremely helpful list, and the majority of its > contributors are not only helpful, but respectful. All of us do not share the > same level of knowledge, but one thing we all have in common, all of us were > once beginners! >> On Aug 26, 2015, at 4:28 PM, Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> well, if this party has threatened or used hate speech, you report them to >> the authorities. One does not well build a new house instead. >> ..not that you were asking me of course smiles. >> Why not report their conduct to the Internet provider? >> >> >>> On Thu, 27 Aug 2015, Yuma Decaux wrote: >>> >>> Scott, >>> >>> What are you really ttryint to get to? Take the same home analogy, or let’s >>> say the social club analogy. A majority is agreeing that this guy is >>> detrimental. It’s been months like this and in recent dates taking a >>> culminating effect of driving the discussion towards what to do with him, >>> on and off list. Your words are also getting more radical, mentioning >>> churches etc. Don’t you think its time to consider that maybe something >>> does need to be done? >>> >>> >>>> On 27/08/2015, at 2:40 AM, Scott Granados <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> I think its funny how people like to push the responsibility on to someone >>>> else instead of deal with it themselves. >>>> >>>> If you don’t want to invite someone in to your home then don’t. Nobody >>>> forces you to read anything. >>>> >>>> These are the same busy bodies who want content pulled on TV because >>>> someone said something they don’t like or it offends some arbitrary >>>> religious value or another. >>>> Oh I don’t like what he said in that song, ban it, moderate it, my view >>>> is the right view so all others be damned. >>>> >>>> wow >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Aug 26, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> For whatever it may be worth, I really think the best thing would be to >>>>> have new moderators on this list, rather than fragmenting the community. >>>>> I know that is not a new idea as several have mentioned the same idea. I >>>>> also don't agree with the wild West approach. I'm sorry. But when you >>>>> send email to a list of several hundred people, you are coming into their >>>>> homes. And you did not have a right to abuse that privilege. Nor should >>>>> several hundred people be expected to write filtersbecause of one or two >>>>> outliers who make itunpleasant for everybody. If a list is said to be >>>>> moderated, people who signed up for that list have a right to expect that >>>>> the rules will be followed and that those who do not follow them >>>>> consistently will be taken off the list. If you like unmoderated lists, >>>>> start one, or, if you want to check one out, go check out the eyes >>>>> freelist. The last time I was on there, which was admittedly many months >>>>> ago, it was horrible. I'm not arguing for one strike and you're out or >>>>> heavy-handed moderation. But when it becomes clear overtime that a few >>>>> people simply cannot follow simple guidelines, then a moderator needs to >>>>> take action, or a new moderator needs to be found. So, I guess I'm >>>>> joining my voice with the chorus of those who say that in the best of all >>>>> worlds, this list would remain but would have an active moderator who did >>>>> his or her job. >>>>> Mary >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 26, 2015, at 4:56 AM, Littlefield, Tyler <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>>>> >>>>>> Hello Scott, >>>>>> There's a vast difference in overly moderating and moderating of those >>>>>> who make the community unpleasant for others. For example, should >>>>>> someone receive an email cursing at them (which happens here pretty >>>>>> frequently), the problem gets solved with a moderation. Should it >>>>>> continue, said individual is removed from the community. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm not proposing that overly prolicing makes a difference, just that >>>>>> it's possible with an active list owner to create a community >>>>>> conducive to a place where people can ask questions and provide help, >>>>>> etc. Can you imagine how much cleaner our inboxes would be (I myself >>>>>> am somewhat at fault here, as I've said) if we were to mostly >>>>>> elimenate all the side bickering? >>>>>> On 8/26/2015 7:46 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>>>>>> I’m not sure moderation = good community. That’s like saying >>>>>>> policing = a good community and I’d dare say the folks of Ferguson >>>>>>> or South Carolina would disagree with that assertion.;) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You bring up a good point I’m just wondering is the tightening of >>>>>>> the rules going to necessarily translate in to better content. It >>>>>>> might but it’s hard to get enough people to switch and keep the >>>>>>> same value when there’s already a critical mass of people here. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Good luck though, as one of my favorite talk radio hosts used to >>>>>>> say before he passed away “that’s why they make chocolate and >>>>>>> vanilla” something for the different viewpoints. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Aug 26, 2015, at 7:43 AM, Littlefield, Tyler >>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> Hello: A lot of people have had numerous problems on this list. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> My last response on this list was cursed at and nothing is being >>>>>>> done to stop it. As a result of the spam/cursing/general throwing >>>>>>> of fits, I created a new list where rules can be enforced and we >>>>>>> can have a good community. On 8/26/2015 2:46 AM, 'Gabriele >>>>>>> Battaglia' via MacVisionaries wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Reply to the Littlefield, Tyler's message, wrote on >>>>>>>>>> 26/08/2015 at 05:29: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, sorry but, maybe I lost something. Why a new list? What >>>>>>>>>> is going to happen to this one? Thanks. Gabriel. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this >>>>>>>> group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. To post to this >>>>>>>> group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>. Visit this >>>>>>>> group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >>>>>>>> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. 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