Good for you!
Stand in that delete power.
I believe he is on another list I am on, but since I understand that I am
the one writing the dictionary of what I will allow to define me, I read
what is relevant, and ignore the rest.
I learn so much from the majority, that it seems disrespectful of the
quality coffee to focus on anything else.
Kare
On Wed, 26 Aug 2015, Rich Ring wrote:
I am aware of who the individual who seems to like to get peoples feelings
stirred up is, and since I know where my delete key is, I have no problem with
this individual. This individual comes and goes, and unless excluded, he’ll be
back! However, my delete key is a constant, not a variable, although, I read
some of his messages because I kind of enjoy the absurd! This is, overall, an
extremely helpful list, and the majority of its contributors are not only
helpful, but respectful. All of us do not share the same level of knowledge,
but one thing we all have in common, all of us were once beginners!
On Aug 26, 2015, at 4:28 PM, Karen Lewellen <[email protected]> wrote:
well, if this party has threatened or used hate speech, you report them to the
authorities. One does not well build a new house instead.
..not that you were asking me of course smiles.
Why not report their conduct to the Internet provider?
On Thu, 27 Aug 2015, Yuma Decaux wrote:
Scott,
What are you really ttryint to get to? Take the same home analogy, or let’s say
the social club analogy. A majority is agreeing that this guy is detrimental.
It’s been months like this and in recent dates taking a culminating effect of
driving the discussion towards what to do with him, on and off list. Your words
are also getting more radical, mentioning churches etc. Don’t you think its
time to consider that maybe something does need to be done?
On 27/08/2015, at 2:40 AM, Scott Granados <[email protected]> wrote:
I think its funny how people like to push the responsibility on to someone else
instead of deal with it themselves.
If you don’t want to invite someone in to your home then don’t. Nobody forces
you to read anything.
These are the same busy bodies who want content pulled on TV because someone
said something they don’t like or it offends some arbitrary religious value or
another.
Oh I don’t like what he said in that song, ban it, moderate it, my view
is the right view so all others be damned.
wow
On Aug 26, 2015, at 12:29 PM, Mary Otten <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
For whatever it may be worth, I really think the best thing would be to have
new moderators on this list, rather than fragmenting the community. I know that
is not a new idea as several have mentioned the same idea. I also don't agree
with the wild West approach. I'm sorry. But when you send email to a list of
several hundred people, you are coming into their homes. And you did not have a
right to abuse that privilege. Nor should several hundred people be expected to
write filtersbecause of one or two outliers who make itunpleasant for
everybody. If a list is said to be moderated, people who signed up for that
list have a right to expect that the rules will be followed and that those who
do not follow them consistently will be taken off the list. If you like
unmoderated lists, start one, or, if you want to check one out, go check out
the eyes freelist. The last time I was on there, which was admittedly many
months ago, it was horrible. I'm not arguing for one strike and you're out or
heavy-handed moderation. But when it becomes clear overtime that a few people
simply cannot follow simple guidelines, then a moderator needs to take action,
or a new moderator needs to be found. So, I guess I'm joining my voice with the
chorus of those who say that in the best of all worlds, this list would remain
but would have an active moderator who did his or her job.
Mary
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 26, 2015, at 4:56 AM, Littlefield, Tyler <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
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Hello Scott,
There's a vast difference in overly moderating and moderating of those
who make the community unpleasant for others. For example, should
someone receive an email cursing at them (which happens here pretty
frequently), the problem gets solved with a moderation. Should it
continue, said individual is removed from the community.
I'm not proposing that overly prolicing makes a difference, just that
it's possible with an active list owner to create a community
conducive to a place where people can ask questions and provide help,
etc. Can you imagine how much cleaner our inboxes would be (I myself
am somewhat at fault here, as I've said) if we were to mostly
elimenate all the side bickering?
On 8/26/2015 7:46 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
I’m not sure moderation = good community. That’s like saying
policing = a good community and I’d dare say the folks of Ferguson
or South Carolina would disagree with that assertion.;)
You bring up a good point I’m just wondering is the tightening of
the rules going to necessarily translate in to better content. It
might but it’s hard to get enough people to switch and keep the
same value when there’s already a critical mass of people here.
Good luck though, as one of my favorite talk radio hosts used to
say before he passed away “that’s why they make chocolate and
vanilla” something for the different viewpoints.
On Aug 26, 2015, at 7:43 AM, Littlefield, Tyler
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hello: A lot of people have had numerous problems on this list.
My last response on this list was cursed at and nothing is being
done to stop it. As a result of the spam/cursing/general throwing
of fits, I created a new list where rules can be enforced and we
can have a good community. On 8/26/2015 2:46 AM, 'Gabriele
Battaglia' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Reply to the Littlefield, Tyler's message, wrote on
26/08/2015 at 05:29:
Hi, sorry but, maybe I lost something. Why a new list? What
is going to happen to this one? Thanks. Gabriel.
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