Well the good news is if you forget you can just attach your disk and wait a while and everything will be caught up to the point just before you start your upgrade. YOu’d want to do this anyway. You can leave it attached and back up hourly as well.
I would do the same thing. Pick up a disk for $100 and problem solved. > On Sep 21, 2016, at 3:02 PM, christopher hallsworth <challswor...@icloud.com> > wrote: > > Thank you. I like the automated backup idea so will look into it. I mean, I > am known to forget to backup until it’s necessary such as updating from El > Capitan to Sierra. >> On 21 Sep 2016, at 19:32, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: >> >> No excuse needed, great question. >> >> It all depends on what you want to accomplish and the value of your data. >> If you just have a few flat files with important data or pictures, things >> like that, maybe tax returns or what ever your method works just fine with >> the idea if you ever do lose a disk you’ll have to reinstall the OS and all >> your software by hand. >> >> If you want something more automated and a little more fire and forget then >> maybe Time Machine makes sense. You can back up on your external disk and >> if needed use multiple disks and take one off site if you’re really >> concerned about your data and there’s a lot to protect. >> If you’ve got real concerns about off site and you need your data >> backed up quickly you might want to go with a backup service that downloads >> your data and stores in the cloud. >> If you have more than one machine to back up then a network attached >> storage makes sense. Say you have 3 computers in your home, instead of a >> disk for each you can get one larger network attached drive and backup your >> machines there all at the same time, no swapping of disks. >> >> All depends on how much your data is worth by that i mean someone securing >> family pics might spend less effort than someone say securing backups of >> reversed engineered UFO drawings at Roswell. (that’s for ET) The more >> valuable the data the more effort you want to expend. >> >> If you’re not concerned about rebuilding by hand your method should do just >> fine. If you want something more automatic go Time Machine. >> >> Hopefully that didn’t confuse the issue m ore but do ask if you have any >> further questions. Backup is an important topic. Especially in this age of >> ransom ware and malware. >> >> Thanks >> Scott >> >>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 2:25 PM, christopher hallsworth >>> <challswor...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>> Hi all >>> >>> So currently, I just use the copy and paste of all my personal files. So is >>> it better to do time machine backups then? Never explored this area so >>> please excuse any ignorance. Cheers! >>>> On 21 Sep 2016, at 18:05, John JD Denning <jdenning1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> It appears there's been a lot of discussion on this subject. And I'm kind >>>> of surprise. Because I was just pointed out backing up the Mac is >>>> incredibly simple and straightforward. Go get a USB or thunderbolt hard >>>> drive plugged in and use Time Machine. That's the simplest way. >>>> >>>> I do to back ups when using super Duper to a thunderbolt raid drive. That >>>> is incredibly fast. And I do a time machine back up to a USB three drive. >>>> >>>> I love the clones, it's great to just be able to change your start up disk >>>> and be right where you were when you did the back up. Everyone should have >>>> a back up. It's just the cost of a external drive. Save yourself lots of >>>> aggravation and go out and get an external drive. If you ever need it >>>> you'll be glad you did >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 13:01, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> No again you’re wrong. You do not need an airport or time capsule for >>>>> time machine. That’s just nonsense. Any hard disk will work. You can >>>>> connect directly via USB, you can connect via network to some drives, you >>>>> can use a time capsule if you want, you can use an airport router with a >>>>> hard drive attached to provide backups to a whole network but these are >>>>> not requirements. A single external pluggable hard disk is all you need. >>>>> Also, it totally restores on a blank disk, no reinstallation of programs >>>>> or operating system, it’s just a full backup which you can fully restore >>>>> from. None of the rest matters a hill of beans. >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 12:37 PM, Singing Sparrow <sunsh...@abe.midco.net> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I can see chris's points because time machine is really not a true back >>>>>> up and also since you need a time capsel, or airport express router and >>>>>> the like for time machine to work the way chris stated to do a true back >>>>>> up would be more of the slutation then time machine. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/21/2016 8:30 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>>>>>> This is such bunk, sometimes Chris I think you talk to hear your self >>>>>>> talk. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Of course it’s a true backup, when the hell is it a requirement to boot >>>>>>> off the backup. By this logic Veritas and the rest of the mass backup >>>>>>> solutions aren’t a backup either. Just because the data is stored in a >>>>>>> database or in an on-tap file system or time machine doesn’t mean it’s >>>>>>> not a full backup. If you restore from time machine you’ll get back to >>>>>>> exactly where you were when that snapshot was taken. IF I used a >>>>>>> terabyte tape library would that make my backup less valid because you >>>>>>> don’t boot from tape? I don’t get it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Helga, Time Machine will do exactly what you want to do and secure that >>>>>>> school data just fine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2016, at 9:08 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland >>>>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The problem with Time Machine is, it's not an exact image of your >>>>>>>> drive. It's great for basic things, and for backing up your apps, >>>>>>>> files, and settings, but if you want to really get technical, it's >>>>>>>> not, at the end of the day, a true OS backup regardless what anyone >>>>>>>> says. For instance, show me how to boot from a time machine backup. >>>>>>>> You can't. Point I hope taken. At least, if you *can!* literally >>>>>>>> boot from a drive soly created by TM, then I'm totally unaware of how >>>>>>>> to do so. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is exactly why I use Super Duper. Though they'd encourage you to >>>>>>>> buy and register it, you don't actually have to. It never will expire >>>>>>>> on you, but there are just some features that won't be enabled. Those >>>>>>>> features by no means are door stoppers though. For instance. I'm a >>>>>>>> pro musician as a lot of you know. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So, when a new major OS like this comes out, it's always the million >>>>>>>> dollar question, will ProTools work with this OS with no problems? At >>>>>>>> first, usually, the answer is no. But, I always try anyway. This >>>>>>>> being said, I don't use Time Machine for those situations. I'll >>>>>>>> instead fire up Super Dooper, take an exact bootable, mind you, >>>>>>>> snapshot image of my drive's current state, then, I'll update, and if >>>>>>>> something goes disastrous, it's no big deal. I just roll back from >>>>>>>> that image I made, and within an hour or two, I'm downgraded and right >>>>>>>> back in perfect working order as if I'd never updated to start with. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So yeah, call me weird. I like the idea of what Apple did with Time >>>>>>>> Machine, but I just don't think it's fair to tell people it's a full >>>>>>>> backup sollution. It's not. It sort of is, but it sort of isn't, if >>>>>>>> you catch my jidst. If all you want is to back up your files, >>>>>>>> settings, and apps, then OK, whatever, go for it, but if you're really >>>>>>>> wanting to be the most optimally safe as possible, then look into a >>>>>>>> full backup sollution like Super Duper, or Carbon Copy Cloner, etc. >>>>>>>> Trust me, in the long run, it just may save you a day or more of hard >>>>>>>> hard work. >>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>> Christopher Gilland >>>>>>>> JAWS Certified, 2016. >>>>>>>> Training Instructor. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i...@gillandmarketing.com >>>>>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010. >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: lscrivani >>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 8:34 AM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Suggestions in how can I back up information of my Mac >>>>>>>>> computer before updating to Sierra >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Time machine is extremely easy to use, almost as soon as you connect >>>>>>>>> your back up drive to the computer it will come up and start the >>>>>>>>> backup. If it does not for any reason either open finder and look >>>>>>>>> under apps and choose time machine. If you need to you can choose >>>>>>>>> the backup drive and click to show it the time machine app that is. >>>>>>>>> Louis >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: Helga Schreiber >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2016 2:29 AM >>>>>>>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>>>>>>> Subject: Suggestions in how can I back up information of my Mac >>>>>>>>> computer before updating to Sierra >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi all! How are you all? So I want to back up my mac before updating >>>>>>>>> to Sierra guys. I heard of time machine, but will that back up all my >>>>>>>>> information I have and so on. If so, I don't know how to set time >>>>>>>>> machine in order to use it with my mac. Or Is there any other >>>>>>>>> tools that you recommend I can use in order to back up my >>>>>>>>> information of my mac computer better? On my Mac computer I have VM >>>>>>>>> ware fusion running windows, and I hve my OS 10,and i use both of >>>>>>>>> them for school assignments and so on. I'm just backing up my >>>>>>>>> information just in case something could occur with my computer. In >>>>>>>>> regards of Virtual machines they can also be back up in order not to >>>>>>>>> lose information of it right? I wil really appreciate it a lot if >>>>>>>>> you guys can give me any feedback about this. I look forward in >>>>>>>>> hearing from you soon. Thanks and God bless! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Helga Schreiber >>>>>>>>> Group Moderator >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> for the IPad help for the blind >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ipadhelpfortheblind+subscr...@groups.io >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Member of National Federation of the Blind and Florida Association of >>>>>>>>> Blind Students. >>>>>>>>> Member of the International Networkers Team (INT). >>>>>>>>> Independent Entrepreneur of the Company 4Life Research. >>>>>>>>> Phone: (561) 706-5950 >>>>>>>>> Email: helga.schreibe...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> Skype: helga.schreiber26 >>>>>>>>> 4Life Website: http://helgaschreiber.my4life.com/1/default.aspx >>>>>>>>> INT Website: http://int4life.com/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that >>>>>>>>> whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." 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