Well I can do this without using the accessibility settings in Adobe Reader and I am not building a screen reader, I can make standard PDF files accessible so all you need is a free screen reader to read and interact with the content. It also works with JAWS, Window Eyes and Zoom Text. I do not change the default settings of Adobe Reader so the content is read.
It works with Foxit but you get a bunch of formatting information as you move through the document. With adobe reader it is smooth and you only get the content. James On Feb 2, 12:32 am, Bryan Smart <[email protected]> wrote: > Adobe was worried about people doing that on Windows, so, the only way that > screen reader manufacturers were granted access to Acrobat Reader was through > a special interface that could only be used if the screen reader presented a > special authorization certificate. In order to get the certificate, you must > follow their rules regarding showing only a limited number of pages at a time > in your virtual buffer/DOM browser, and disable copy/paste functions. If you > don't follow those rules, they revoke your certificate, and your users can't > read PDFs anymore. > > I wouldn't be surprised if Adobe twisted Apple's arm on this, too. > > Bryan > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Hofstader > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 7:06 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: apple and adobe zeitgeist fallout > > Preview works with the relatively weak AdobePDFencryption scheme built into > the authoring tool. Some features, like copy and paste, are turned off to > keep users from using the most obvious way to get the data out of the file. I > haven't tried any of these documents in Preview with VO so I can't speak to > whether we blinks can read these documents or not. I would be surprised, > though, if it didn't turn off the OSX accessibility interface for the body of > the protectedPDFas anyone with half a brain and some hacking skills could > build a little program that sucked all of the data out of a file as it > pretended to be an accessibility program like VO. > > I'm told that Preview barfs on the plug-in protection schemes but have no > evidence either way (my wife had some of the weaker protected files that > worked for her). > > cdh > On Jan 31, 2010, at 1:03 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: > > > I just use the built-in preview viewer. It readsPDFfiles just fine. Of > > course, since Adobe hates Apple so much, it might not work with > > encrypted/protected PDFs, but I haven't tried them yet, so wouldn't know. > > > Bryan > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] > > Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 12:28 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: apple and adobe zeitgeist fallout > > > Bryan: > > Well said, and I agree. What are people using on the mac to > > readPDFdocuments? > > Carolyn ch:)) > > On Jan 30, 2010, at 7:19 AM, Bryan Smart wrote: > > >> And it blows my mind how they've been able to get everyone to conform. I > >> just don't get it at all. I mean, for most people, they need Acrobat > >> Reader in order to readPDFdocuments on a PC. Acrobat Reader has been > >> treated by Adobe, not so much as a way to make the documents that their > >> professional tools produce to be read for free, but as a vector to get as > >> much of their stuff as possible on to your PC. You want to readPDFfiles? > >> Well, of course that means that you'd also like us to install plug ins for > >> everything from ebook management to real-time spell checking of PDFs. > >> Also, just in case you need it, how about we install stuff to help you > >> produce PDFs through adobe.com? And since all of this stuff that we just > >> added, that you didn't ask for, is always having security problems, how > >> about we install this updater software that will run in the background and > >> constantly nag you to update all of the bits that you didn't request in > >> the first place. And, hey, while we're updating, how about we install some > >> other stuff that you didn't request and don't want. I don't know how IT > >> departments haven't banned Acrobat Reader as a security risk. It seems > >> that way to me. > > >> And, when it comes down to its core function, you know, readingPDFfiles, > >> Acrobat Reader is horribly slow at that task. I used to think that PDFs > >> must be this big bloated document format, but I've realized in the past > >> few years that PDFs aren't the problem, the problem is Acrobat Reader. > >> OtherPDFreading tools are quite snappy. Its unfortunate for Windows users > >> that Acrobat Reader is the only reading tool that is both accessible, and > >> is blessed by Adobe with access to encrypted/securedPDFfiles. I know there > >> are converters and other accessible readers, but those won't work if the > >> file is secured or encrypted. > > >> Adobe reminds me of Real Networks. Do any of you remember Real Player? > >> That's how we used to stream audio and video before Flash. Of course, > >> hardly anyone uses the Real Player formats or player any longer. The big > >> reason for that is they took the fact that so many people installed their > >> software as an opportunity to bundle all sorts of crapware with it. I > >> suppose Adobe is better, since they aren't including Google and Yahoo > >> toolbars, 50 free MP3s from EMusic.com, Weather Bug, a free trial of > >> Mcafee Security Suite, and $10 off at Amazon.com on your next purchase of > >> $30 or more, but they're still including lots of unnecessary and bloated > >> extras that run slowly and are infested with security problems. > > >> And people continue to use their stuff why? They seem like a shady > >> company, far from professional, and their practices say to me that they > >> don't respect or value their customers. > > >> Bryan > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [email protected] > >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chris Hofstader > >> Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2010 8:05 AM > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: apple and adobe zeitgeist fallout > > >> For years, Adobe's behavior has been a paradox wrapped in an enigma and > >> coded with deep encryption. > >> On Jan 30, 2010, at 7:52 AM, Yuma Antoine Decaux wrote: > > >>> Yes you are right, some of apple's stuff is also still carbon, but i > >>> remember somewhere saying adobe didn't want to jump the coco bandwagon. > >>> Why is what i am looking for. > > >>> best > > >>> Yuma > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "MacVisionaries" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> [email protected]. > >>> For more options, visit this group > >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]. > >> For more options, visit this group > >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >> "MacVisionaries" group. > >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >> [email protected]. > >> For more options, visit this group > >> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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