You forgot to mention ... nevermind.
Yeah, completely understand the frustration, sticks have been sharpened, people 
have been poked, will get back to you as soon as I have something.

And here I thought it had been addressed ... :'(

Aloha,
Michael.
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From: David Carriger [mailto:david.carri...@infusionsoft.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 3:26 PM
To: Michael Wise <michael.w...@microsoft.com>; mailop@mailop.org
Subject: Re: Microsoft IPs automatically unsubscribing recipients?


Yes, I'm still seeing this. So, an open question:

As an ESP, how am I supposed to tell my users to practice good list hygiene and 
remove unengaged recipients from their lists when my data is being tainted by 
Google/Microsoft/etc triggering all of my engagement mechanisms (open tracking 
pixel, tracked links, etc)? These show up as their most engaged recipients.

Obviously there are things that can be done on my end (look for all URIs in the 
email being triggered with a short time frame from IP ranges that we know do 
this behavior and don't count those as engagement), so I'll tread down that 
path with our developers. Still, I find it frustrating, and wonder how other 
people are dealing with this issue.

________________________________
From: Michael Wise 
<michael.w...@microsoft.com<mailto:michael.w...@microsoft.com>>
Sent: Monday, February 26, 2018 6:34:45 PM
To: David Carriger; mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>
Subject: RE: Microsoft IPs automatically unsubscribing recipients?


Is this still on-going?
I had heard that it had been addressed week before last...?

Aloha,
Michael.
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From: mailop <mailop-boun...@mailop.org<mailto:mailop-boun...@mailop.org>> On 
Behalf Of David Carriger
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 11:29 AM
To: mailop@mailop.org<mailto:mailop@mailop.org>
Subject: [mailop] Microsoft IPs automatically unsubscribing recipients?


I've just received an interesting escalation from our support team. We have a 
customer sending mail to recipients at the following domains:


andromeda.rutgers.edu
apsu.edu
barry.edu
bsu.edu
ccsnh.edu
clarion.edu
cofc.edu
dcccd.edu
gsu.edu
hofstra.edu
king.edu
letu.edu
mail.barry.edu
mansfield.edu
mercycollege.edu
mssu.edu
oldqueens.rutgers.edu
queensu.ca
rci.rutgers.edu
rutgers.edu
salemstate.edu
trevecca.edu
uncfsu.edu
usi.edu
vanderbilt.edu
wcsu.edu


With the exception of Rutgers, these are all hosted on Office 365. Once the 
mail has delivered, I'm seeing all of the links inside the email hit within a 
span of time varying between 1-10 seconds. For example, here's an unsubscribe 
in our database for <redacted>@mssu.edu:

List Unsubscribe Mon Feb 19 08:45:54 EST 2018 by 40.107.217.27



If I pull my web access logs for that, I've got the following timeline of 
events (all times are EST):



2018-02-19 08:45:55     /app/optOut/noConfirm/994494/72f6f3b025bfa2a1     
40.107.217.27

2018-02-19 08:45:55     /app/optOut/8/bf58b2859105b738/994494/72f6f3b025bfa2a1  
   40.107.217.27

2018-02-19 08:45:55     /app/emailOpened/994494/924     40.107.217.27

2018-02-19 08:45:56     /app/optOut/noConfirm/994494/%3Cimg%20src=     
40.107.217.27

2018-02-19 08:45:57     /app/hostedEmail/994494/72f6f3b025bfa2a1     
40.107.217.27

2018-02-19 08:45:59     /app/emailOpened/994494/924     40.107.217.27



So, for this example, within a span of four seconds we've hit the one-click 
opt-out link we use in our List-Unsubscribe header, the user-visible 
unsubscribe link within the message body, the open tracking pixel, the tracking 
link we provide for our customer's call-to-action...that's not human behavior. 
That's machine behavior.



It's the same story for all of the other recipients I've looked at. This 
behavior is occurring from the following IPs/ranges, all owned by Microsoft:



104.47.61.250

40.107.217.0/24

40.107.218.0/24

40.107.222.0/24

40.107.234.0/24

40.107.238.0/24

40.107.242.0/24



Are we the only ones experiencing this, or are others seeing this as well?



Small Business Growth Expert
DAVID CARRIGER
Linux Systems Administrator

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