Dnia 14.10.2019 o godz. 18:52:33 Michael Orlitzky via mailop pisze: > > 1. It's not fair to judge a sender by his neighbors. > > Well, kind of. Our in-house blacklists are tended manually, and we keep > evidence for every listing so that if we later have to explain > ourselves, we can. If I get one spam from one IP in your netblock, I ban > that IP. If I get spam from two IPs in your netblock, I ban them both. > If I get spam from three, and I have to spend half an hour typing up > commit messages and pushing to repos and classifying evidence... then to > hell with you, I'm blocking the whole thing. It's now *your* problem. > That's the price you pay for having a real human over here. > > However, if we block you, you can just read the rejection message and > get in touch with me or a coworker easily and we'll add an exception for > you, because we care that our users get your mail. This is where the > second issue comes into play. In general, overzealous blocking is not a > life or death issue; but with Google, there's no one to appeal to. And > that's the crux of your problem. This first issue about reputation is > being argued pointlessly. The real problem is that > > 2. Google doesn't give a shit about you. > > They don't care if you or anyone else can send/receive mail, because > that's not how they make money. You're not going to convince them to > care, and so long as they don't, your problems are only going to get > worse. No one's going to tell you how to fix *this* issue because there > is no solution -- that's why you're getting the next best thing, namely > advice to switch providers and pray that Google doesn't feel like > blocking your new host, too. > > "Old man yells at cloud," but that's the truth. Being a good guy isn't a > great business model in any unregulated industry.
You have identified the problem 100% right. But "switch providers and pray that Google doesn't feel like blocking your new host" is not a solution, since it requires a lot of work (and money) on my part without any guarantee of success. So it seems that there's actually no solution and that's the *real* problem... :( -- Regards, Jaroslaw Rafa [email protected] -- "In a million years, when kids go to school, they're gonna know: once there was a Hushpuppy, and she lived with her daddy in the Bathtub." _______________________________________________ mailop mailing list [email protected] https://chilli.nosignal.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/mailop
