On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 02:50 PM, Michael Meeropol wrote:

> 
> ...what is the power relationship at the POINT of production.  Are workers
> even partially in CONTROL?

Interesting question, Michael, but, as Vladimiro says, I don’t think there is 
any one answer. I would say it mostly depends on the level of political 
consciousness.

In normal times,  the great majority of workers are mainly concerned with 
improving their pay and benefits rather than managing the workplace (workers 
control). Which is not to say they will not, where they are unionized, seek to 
limit management rights over matters like discipline, promotion, vacation and 
shift scheduling, contracting out, health and safety, layoff procedures, etc.

Like most of us, I haven’t lived through turbulent periods of social crisis so 
the following are only  impressions formed through reading and discussion. When 
surpressed class antagonisms have come to the surface, previously apolitical 
but newly radicalized workers have engaged in various forms of militant action 
to promote the class struggle both inside and outside the workplace. These have 
included factory occupations,  industrial sabotage, the formation of all-union 
committes to debate politics and to maintain public order and the provision of 
necessary services which have broken down. The historical high point of such 
worker militancy were of course the workers'soviets which played a pivotal role 
in the Bolshevik Revolution and which were emulated in other warring countries 
inspired by the events in Russia. But the 30’s also saw sit-down strikes for 
union recognition in a non-revolutionary context.

Where the revolutions succeeded in overthrowing capitalism, the working class 
movement quickly split. The anarchist and syndicalist minority demanded that 
the workers exercise direct control of production through a pyramid of 
self-governing councils while the victorious Communist parties in the Soviet 
Union, China, and elsewhere insisted that production necessarily had to be 
planned and executed through the party and the workers' state.

When the revolutionary crisis passed, the working class was satisified to leave 
the management of production to state appointees and to take action as the 
party and party-controlled unions dictated. The more ideologically-motivated 
workers threw themselves into production, the less committed ones tended to 
slack off. As for modern China, I haven’t seen anything to date to distinguish 
the interests and activity of Chinese workers from those in the US abd other 
countries in the West other than mandatory attendace at party meetings in the 
workplace and assembling to sing the Internationale at state-sponsored events 
outside of it. But maybe that’s an underestimation of the degree of labour 
unrest and independent working class organization in the country and someone 
who regularly follows the China Labor Bulletin can correct me.


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