maybe a historical analogy will help in the discussion of whether rivalry between the US and CHina has within the the danger of (sorry for the buzz-word) "inter-imperialist war".
What led to WW I was the division of the world capitalist system into competing blocs --- what almost led to WW III was the division of the world into a socialist bloc and a capitalist bloc --- Isn't it possible that because China and the US are so intertwined economically there is less (I didn't say "no") danger of a war of re-division because both sides have so much to lose. If one thinks of what led up to WW I (the rise of Germany as a would-be imperial power) that does NOT seem to be happening between the US and China --- China has penetrated the international market place very dramatically (selling many important products to the rest of the capitalist world) --- Obviously, a counter-argument could occur about China's penetration of the so-called "third world" and whether that holds the danger of pushing out the "older" imperialist powers --- (here is where the argument about China being capitalist --- which means ultimately imperialist if we follow Lenin, right? --- comes to the fore --- it's not just an arcane discussion but has significant and dangerous consequences --- If China follows the laws of motion of advanced capitalism, it is BOUND to ultimately confront the current hegemon.....) I think the issue of war vs. "peaceful competition" rides on how important the intertwining of the Chinese and US economies are --- (Russia's isolation and relative backwardness --- "an oil well with nuclear weapons" --- and reliance on Iran and China does of course raise dangers of the Ukraine war ultimately leading to a wider war with the prospect of using nuclear weapons --- Russia appears to be LESS economically intertwined with the rest of Europe ....) On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 9:35 AM Marv Gandall <[email protected]> wrote: > > > More concerning are the underlying practical implications. They shape our > view of the current trade war initiated by the US against China and how we > would position ourselves if it were to escalate into an unintended military > confrontation between the two sides. That would stretch the present strains > over Ukraine within the left in the advanced capitalist countries past the > breaking point. > > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Groups.io Links: You receive all messages sent to this group. View/Reply Online (#29520): https://groups.io/g/marxmail/message/29520 Mute This Topic: https://groups.io/mt/104961025/21656 -=-=- POSTING RULES & NOTES #1 YOU MUST clip all extraneous text when replying to a message. #2 This mail-list, like most, is publicly & permanently archived. #3 Subscribe and post under an alias if #2 is a concern. #4 Do not exceed five posts a day. -=-=- Group Owner: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://groups.io/g/marxmail/leave/8674936/21656/1316126222/xyzzy [[email protected]] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
