> On Mar 17, 2024, at 7:28 PM, Marv Gandall <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> What I have asked for is evidence which directly implicates Xi and other 
> Chinese leaders in systematically living off the state-run enterprises they 
> control as do those who control private corporations, which is the implied 
> suggestion by those seeing to discredit the Chinese leadership as corrupt.

This argument is disingenuous, Marv, because those relationships are even more 
opaque in China than in the US.  I remember the NYT article cited and thought 
at the time that it was likely true that Xi's family had amassed over $700M. 
When the anti-corruption campaign began in China, it seemed apparent to me that 
this was how Xi moved against his enemies. It never crossed my mind that he was 
cleaning the place up.  I never traveled to China, however, and don't consider 
myself any kind of an expert.  But I have colleagues who lived and worked 
there. So I have plenty of anecdotes.  Like one of my co-workers who was driven 
to a meeting at what he thought was a small university only to find out that it 
was an official's home.  In a country as poor as China, that is an outstanding 
example of corruption. How they got it requires more transparency than what is 
available in China today. 

Mark

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