On Thu, Mar 21, 2024 at 10:28 PM, Mark Baugher wrote:

> 
> It's a long article. I thought this was explanatory: "Hamas first began
> suicide attacks specifically targeting civilians in response to the Cave
> of the Patriarchs massacre carried out by the American-Israeli settler
> Baruch Goldstein

No disagreement that Hamas was a terrorist faction as far back as the Goldstein 
massacre and continuing through the Second Intifada until it assumed 
responsibility for Gaza and the Palestinan resistance generally in 2007. Nor do 
I question that Israeli civilians were killed on October 7th, although its 
still unclear how many were caught in a crossfire between Palestinian and IDF 
forces or raped or otherwise abused by undisciplined Palestinian fighters and 
others who followed them through the breached fence. But no evidence has 
appeared that such abuses were ordered by the Hamas leadership. Also, testimony 
of those Israeli hostages who were released and interviewed indicated they were 
well treated by their captors under the circumstances, and that the 
hostage-taking was in itself a tactic to free the many more teenage and other 
Palestinians held captive in Israeli "detention centres".


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