> On Jun 15, 2026, at 07:14, Anthony Teso via groups.io 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> https://mlrg.online/current-events/theses-on-trump-2-and-the-usa-ruling-class/
>  
> The Class That Could Not Coordinate
> Reply to the MLRG Theses on Trump 2 and the USA Ruling Class
> Anthony P. Teso
> 
> 
Thanks for posting this note. I have one question and comment.
...
> What the Theses get right, and why it does not need the frame
> 
> 
...
> The Russia analysis deserves credit on its own terms. The Theses name the 
> invasion of Ukraine “revanchist and imperialist,” which is more than most of 
> the campist left will say, and they read the humiliation of Zelensky as a 
> calculated use of Ukraine as bait to discipline the European Union. The 
> instinct is sound. It belongs to a third-camp analysis the document does not 
> otherwise hold, one that would refuse to launder any imperialism, 
> Washington’s or Moscow’s, through the optic of a single coordinating villain.
> 
What does the "campist left" have to do with Hari's article?

I ask because several years ago this list was embroiled in this topic in the 
context of Ukraine. The discussion was interesting because there were people 
from various Trotskyist backgrounds who viewed the war as a necessary reaction 
of Russia to NATO threats. Barry Sheppard wrote an article to that effect that 
was shared on this list. And there are many MLists who support Ukraine's right 
to self determination.

Mark



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