John E., you asked John R. what his suggestion to the Palestinians is. I’ll 
answer for myself: I don’t have one, and I’m wary of anyone on the American 
left who does. People living under siege will choose their forms of resistance, 
whether we approve of them or not. Your comparison of the NLF and FLN holds up 
to that point. It holds further than you might want, too. Socialists who 
supported the FLN still argued openly about Philippeville in 1955, and having 
that argument didn’t turn them into colonialists.

Where I can’t follow you is the casualty paragraph. About 1,200 people were 
killed that day, most of them civilians. Around 250 were taken hostage. The UN 
Special Representative found reasonable grounds to believe sexual violence took 
place at several sites. Some of the early claims were false, and the IDF did 
kill some of its people under the Hannibal directive. That still leaves the 
core account standing, and calling it hasbara hands John R. is the easy half of 
the argument. I also don’t think the breach of the fence and the killing of 
people at a music festival can be commemorated as a single event.

RKOB’s point about Democratic voting is a fair hit, and it’s also a dodge, 
since it doesn’t touch the question John R. raised. But I’d push it somewhere 
RKOB probably didn’t intend. A left that votes Democratic in November and 
marches for Palestine the rest of the year has two politics and no party. That 
isn’t one comrade’s inconsistency. It describes nearly all of us.

Marv’s post is the one I keep coming back to. He’s right that sympathetic 
bystanders read the flags and chants through a frame the Zionists built for 
them and right that the movement should be corrected without being denounced. 
What his post doesn’t say is who would do the correcting. The solidarity 
movement is a coalition of campus groups, NGOs, mosques, unions, and small 
sects. Nobody in it can decide what gets said on October 7, and nobody can be 
held to it afterward. So each grouping speaks to its own base, and the most 
committed voices set the tone because there’s nobody where a different line 
could win a vote. John R. calls the result stupidity. I’d say the stupidity 
follows from the arrangement, and denouncing it changes nothing about that 
arrangement.

I don’t have a program for the movement to adopt. My point is narrower. 
“Educate the movement” needs an educator, an organization with members who 
argue out a line and then answer for it. The left has gone a long time without 
building one. While that stays true, we’ll have this exchange every October, 
and none of it will bind anyone, including me.

Tony


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