RE: Relocating L/Control Arm Pivot Points

[Brad Hallett]

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Have you got the links for these sites Terry I would be very interested to check them out.  I have fitted coil overs to the rear years ago but I built turrets for them, removing the stock towers completely.  This made the conversion a brilliant setup HOWEVER is not allowed by CAMS for rallying anymore. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Rudd Sent: Saturday, 2 March 2002 12:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Relocating L/Control Arm Pivot Points Excellent suggestion this from Errol, knowing your corner weights is very critical and very often overlooked by enthusiast tuners these days - variable rate springs work very well on Aussie crap roads but I've found to get the best out of them you need adjustable damper/rebound rates as well. I've fitted this sort of gear into our family Toy (not rear coil over) and it wasn't easy to get an over 1500kg tank to handle well.   Dan, OK, if you're going to use coil overs on the rear of a 1600 then the fulcrum ratio is not 3.8 rather it is around 0.9ish, I think it varies just a tad in the range of .9 - .95,  depending on which method you use the attach the suspension unit and what the deflection angle is. What this means is that the equivalent stock spring rate of say 600lbs for a coil over is ~150lbs which as you have said is much the same as a BRE car. There are a couple of mods that need to be done to a 1600 to run rear coil overs which you should read about on the dimers sites in the US and I can't remember exactly what these are, strengthening the tops of the towers rings bells but I seem to recall from reading that there are a couple of other things recommended as well.   regards Terry -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of E Smith Sent: Saturday, 2 March 2002 7:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Relocating L/Control Arm Pivot Points Dan, I’m tipping your front corner weights to be 585 - 590 lb’s each side and your rears to be about 420 lb per corner. I would use some progressive double taper springs of 90 – 170 lb/in variable rate for the rears and 125 – 240 lb/in variable rate for the fronts. This would give you a soft ride for normal driving and a hard rate as you load up the suspension during exuberant driving. The 5 degree rear angle means you could up the rear rate by 10 lbs. Cheers Feral Errol   -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dan Sent: Saturday, 2 March 2002 5:08 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Relocating L/Control Arm Pivot Points   Thanks for the feedback guys. I'm talking in terms of the true spring rate ,and I'm swaying towards lighter to try and preserve some comfort for driving on the average roads around here. The rear suspension will be a coilover type shock ,mounted at around a 5 deg. angle so maybe a higher rate might be more on the ball. I know the BRE cars in the US in the 70's ran 150# on all corners but were also substantially lighter than a road-going vehicle. Any ballpark suggestions ? Cheers! Dan     Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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