Yeah, It's impossible to achieve a ghetto driving position in a Miata unless you are about 4 feet tall. I hardly consider the max recline for anyone over 5'10 excessive, it's just not the track driving position. Also, most find it nice to be able to relax the seating position on long trips.
Essentially, I'm no crash safety expert. I'm just in the process of gathering info about what is dangerous and what is considered safe. If the hard core bar with SFI padding is considered safe regardless of the potential for head impact during a crash, then I'm not going to worry about it. As someone posted earlier, most passenger cars have interior components that your head could impact with during certain collision circumstances. These components are about as hard as the SFI padding. Admittedly, this would not be a pleasant impact, but crashing is rarely a pleasant experience. It is also probably worth considering that an impact with an object designed to "interact" with a human head could be better than the whip lash effects/neck injuries associated with collisions when the head is unrestricted. (ie concussion vs severe neck injury); but that's speculation on my part. Shaun _____ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of CB Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 9:18 AM To: 'Larry Alster'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Miata Power List' Subject: RE: Hard Dog Hard Core fitment on MSM Well I am sure I am not into the getto driving position, but in my 90 with the HDHCHT, which is supost to be back farther than the HDHC bar, I could very easally get wacked on the head with the stock seat in any hit from the rear of the car. I think the best solution might be 1 a very hard real padding, designed to spread the hit over the total compression distance of the pad (this varies greatly), and 2 a seat which could cover the upper areas back of the head, which the stock seat is too low to provide for me. Don't know what seat might either might lower the driver below the bar, or the seat back be higher to help cover up the bar. I think either would be an improvement. As it is, a rear hit would be unpleasant at best. Perhaps an adjustable headrest would be a great addition. Regards CB&Stokier -----Original Message[CB] gvos From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Larry Alster Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 6:12 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'Miata Power List' Subject: RE: Hard Dog Hard Core fitment on MSM Well since I don't really consider driving with the seat fully reclined in a ghetto driving position to be proper driving posture I guess I never considered this as restricting the travel of the seat. Larry White Knight 1991 Crystal White #99 CSP Silver Bullet 1992 Silverstone #17 SM2 FM I+ Turbo Honey B 1992 Sunburst Yellow #99 SM2L JR Supercharger Whooosh 2004 Titanium Mazdaspeed MX-5 LowCountry Miata <http://www.lowcountrymiataclub.net> http://www.lowcountrymiataclub.net Masters Miata RAGS 074 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brad Franks Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 12:03 AM To: Larry Alster Cc: 'Miata Power List' Subject: Re: Hard Dog Hard Core fitment on MSM I have an older (1999-ish) HDHC in my NA. I bought it for the height as I'm 6'4". "Travel" is unrestricted however, "recline" is marginally restricted with the seat to the rear. You can stop reading now, or read on for more information. I've said it over and over again, there *are* seat fitment issues with this bar. My complaints to one of the online HD vendors forced a change in their advertised warning of fitment (however, I kept the bar and did not ask for any sort of a refund). Fore/Aft travel is unrestricted, but my position is one click foreward of all the way to the rear and the rear of the seat perfectly flush with the bulkhead. In this position there is significant contact with the bar, so much so that I have worn away the vinyl and foam and and am on bare metal of the headrest against the bar. Brad Larry Alster wrote: I have 4 different versions of the HDHC bars in my 4 cars. I don?t see any seat travel issues with them and I?m not really sure I?m going to worry about hitting the bar in a crash. Before I hit the bar I would think I would have other things to be worrying about.
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