As someone who has worked in the professional health area for twenty years, I have never had any problem with placebos or (to use a term medical professionals increasingly prefer) the context effect. We are psychosomatic unities and (speaking analogously to describe very complex processes the amount about which we still don't understand far exceeding that which we can explain) on the interface between consciousness and our central nervous system there are all kinds of feedbacks and complicated deep interaction.
A positive attitude to things helps in all kinds of ways, this is one of the basic truths contained in the myth of Pandora's box and it is not a coincidence that we describe negative cognitive/emotional situations linguistically as "sickening". We should, however, as always, be careful about quick fixes and patent psychological quack solutions. A positive, optimistic, contented attitude can help to support our immune system, for example, so that it can better deal with the daily cellular occurrence of potentially malignant DNA mutation. It is something else to believe that one can happy-think an established tumour out of existence. Francis On 29 Jan., 13:05, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > Good question. > > If the real thing is 'a positive end result' in whatever feild you are > working in, then surley there is no differance between a placebo and > 'the real thing'? > > On 29 Jan, 01:08, Kierkecraig <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I'm a little late to this discussion. Only read the last few posts. > > Isn't the placebo effect just as genuine as the real thing? And can > > the real thing be negated by negative thinking? If so, is there > > really a "real thing" or just the placebo effect. > > > On Jan 28, 10:57 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > That's the most basic interpretation, but here's a better explanation. > > > If you wake up in the morning and think to yourself, "Today is a sh*tty > > > day", lo and behold, it is. > > > > Placebo effect lets patients take sugar pills thinking "This is going to > > > cure me!", and lo and behold, it does. It's well documented. > > > > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 12:53 PM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Correct me if I am wrong Lee, but what I perceive your post as saying > > > > is that, IF one wakes up in the morning all sour puss and ornery then > > > > "that" is a reflection of that person's subconscious mind which leads > > > > to adverse results throughout the day. Conversely one that awakes in a > > > > jubilant frame of mind experiences more positive occurrences resultant > > > > of the jubilant subconscious. > > > > > On Jan 28, 9:53 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Well seeing as you asked so nice, and have stopped your normal shity > > > > > attacking routine, then I'll gladly repeat myself for you. > > > > > > The example I gave about waking up in the morning was to highlight, > > > > > how you feel can affect your day to day life. It was in direct > > > > > response to your bullshit comment, I was trying to help you see > > > > > through the bullshit, as you asked. > > > > > > But I've told you that three times already. > > > > > > Try this one then. > > > > > > The placebo effect is a well known example of how what's in your head > > > > > can affect the workings of your body. Do you disagree? > > > > > > On 28 Jan, 15:00, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > You are just being silly. I know to whom and to what I was > > > > > > responding. > > > > > > Slip made a statement about "...Joseph Murphy (1898-1981) > > > > > > Prosperity writer extraordinaire DR. JOSEPH MURPHY wrote, taught, > > > > > > counseled... " > > > > > > My concern was to respond to that. It is called "keeping to the > > > > > > thread". You came back with, quite frankly, some nonsense, about > > > > > > waking up in the morning, which was completely off topic. > > > > > > Even though this was of no relevance to the topic, I asked what was > > > > > > the point of it and you failed to answer that. > > > > > > Give it up! > > > > > > > On Jan 28, 1:31 pm, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Sorry Chazy, but you are wrong. > > > > > > > Oh booh hoo!! > > > > > > > ......s day, which in turn you decided to not answer directly > > > > > > > > any of it, but choose rather to subject me to a round of the old > > > > > > > game > > > > > > > 'whats wrong with your life then Lee'. > > > > > > > Is that a real quote or a figment of your won imagination? > > > > > > > > Why Chaz do we have to go through this every single time we try to > > > > > > > communcate? > > > > > > > I had not noticed. Maybe you are imagining things? > > > > > > > > Rest assured, I did not get mixed up anywhere, do you get it now, > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > you understand, have I made myself clear to you? > > > > > > > You have made the fact of your own confusion crystal clear. > > > > > > Did you have a point when talking about getting up in the morning, > > > > > > or > > > > > > not?- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
