Interesting, Molly, when I read this, I felt a sense of "knowing", that Spanish idea of "entiendo", more than knowing, I have it, felt it. Thank you for sharing.
On Thu, Jan 29, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote: > > I had an experience like Pat's about a week before Christmas when I > slipped on a snowy sidewalk and as my face hit the pavement, it > bounced hard right on my nose, and hit the pavement again. The pain > was paralyzing, and it took me a moment to "collect" myself and > remember who I was, where I was, and what happened. Before I moved a > muscle, I also remembered my own smiling face before I slipped, and > went back to that smiling face that I knew. I would have stayed > unmoving, face down on the pavement longer but an eighty year old man > came out of the tailor shop and I heard him saying in a thick Asian > accent, "You OK? You OK?" I started moving again more for him than > for me, but I knew that I was finished putting my self image back > together in a way that included the face that I saw in the mirror that > morning, no blood, bruising or pain. > > The tailor reached down for me as I looked up at him and said," Hey - > your nose look good. This is so I can hold you now." I thought it > was a strange statement, and it brought to mind my demented mother in > law's soul insight, "we all hold each other." > > After what I will call, my adjustment from God, (no mortal man could > have done such a thing to me and lived) my overbite has been > corrected! There was never any visual evidence of injury on my face, > although I couldn't wear glasses for over a month and needed some > mortal man adjustments for my neck and back. I also found the need to > perfect the art of gentle kissing because, well, OUCH! > > I agree with Pat. These inexplicable happenings happen at the level > of knowing - that include thought and feeling and the physical > sensation of a state of perfection or wholeness. In retrospect, I > wish I had the time to include that feeling of well being into more > than the physical appearance of my face. But I did learn something > important, laying on the sidewalk, moving between the one and the > many, myself and the tailor, trying to recover myself that day. > > On Jan 29, 8:00 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 28 Jan, 17:26, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The Doc, who is the Doc? > > > > Dr. Murphy. No doubt, the discoverer of Murphy's Law, which is why > > you conveniently forgot you brought him up in the first place. LOL!! > > > > > On Jan 28, 9:11 am, bruce ralph <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > I think the Doc makes some decent points. The problem I would have is > > > > wirh the dogmatic tone about the mysteries of the subconcious and the > > > > "traps" lurking there to take you in the wrong direction. You know > all > > > > of the things rattling around in your skull are not either pure good > > > > or pure evil. So lets get REAL, find a balance in your thinking and > > > > RELAX. > > > > > > On Jan 28, 8:31 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Sorry Chazy, but you are wrong. > > > > > > > It does not matter who you where talking to really, I did not get > > > > > messed up to which post I was replying, I think you are the > confused > > > > > one. > > > > > > > In fact it was Neil who you asked to show you which are the good > > > > > questions because you can't sort it from the bullshit. My reply to > > > > > you was to help you sort the bullshit. > > > > > > > This is a forum you can speak to more than one persson at a time, > and > > > > > it is not unknown for members to butt in an answer questiins not > > > > > possed diectly to them. > > > > > > > I attacked you over nothing, please feel free to go back to my > first > > > > > post to you here and you'll see the tone I took was one of banter, > and > > > > > all I really done was offer a few examples of how ones state of > mind > > > > > can effect ones day, which in turn you decided to not answer > directly > > > > > any of it, but choose rather to subject me to a round of the old > game > > > > > 'whats wrong with your life then Lee'. > > > > > > > Why Chaz do we have to go through this every single time we try to > > > > > communcate? > > > > > > > Rest assured, I did not get mixed up anywhere, do you get it now, > do > > > > > you understand, have I made myself clear to you? > > > > > > > On 28 Jan, 12:18, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Jan 28, 11:04 am, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Ohh come on now Chaz, I may be idiotic but an idiot no. > > > > > > > > > Are you really trying to tell me that this: > > > > > > > > > 'Maybe you should have more control?' Was directed to SD, even > though > > > > > > > you quoted my previous post above it? > > > > > > > > > And that this: > > > > > > > > > ' think you might want to ask yourself why you have problems > some > > > > > > > mornings and not others' > > > > > > > > > Was likewise? > > > > > > > > > Come on now mate why don't you follow the thread. > > > > > > > > No, these comments were directed at you certainly. You might have > > > > > > noticed that the posting in which I made those comments was > somewhat > > > > > > blase - tha is because you had attacked me as if I had responded > to > > > > > > your posting about getting up in the morning. > > > > > > WHilst you are about it, why not answer my points? > > > > > > But as I thought your stuff about getting up in the morning was > not > > > > > > related to my comments to Slip I had initially ignored them. > > > > > > In future SO that you know. You should keep your eye on all of > the > > > > > > ">>" symbols, These will show you exactly to whom, and upon > which, > > > > > > comments I am commenting on. > > > > > > LIke I said look back at the thread and you will see where you > went > > > > > > wrong. > > > > > > > > > On 27 Jan, 22:38, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > LEEEEEE LEEEE LEEEEE > > > > > > > > > > Why don't you try to follow the thread? > > > > > > > > Archytas and I were talking about Slip Disc's posting, not > yours!!!! > > > > > > > > Why don't you read it through? You will see if you look > carefully, > > > > > > > > that in your last posting to me - you had responded to a > statement I > > > > > > > > was making to Archytas. I had seen your first post on this > thread but > > > > > > > > felt it had not followed up from my first response to Slip > Disc - you > > > > > > > > then responded as if mine were a response to yours - which it > was not. > > > > > > > > You are confused. There is no need to be insulting. > > > > > > > > I still don't see how your waking up thing is at all relevant > to > > > > > > > > Slip's thread. > > > > > > > > > > I'll ignore the rest of your rantings because they are not > relevant. > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 27, 6:04 pm, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Chazy chazy chazy, why do you always do this? > > > > > > > > > > > I merely offered an example mate of how ones state of mind > can effect > > > > > > > > > change your life, why then suddenly procliam it as my > problem? > > > > > > > > > > > I'm not even talking about me, I'm not even talking about > you, I'm > > > > > > > > > talking about any human. > > > > > > > > > > > Okay well lets bring it to a more personal level, as it > seems that is > > > > > > > > > what you like. > > > > > > > > > > > Think what your attitude to ohhh I donno, lets just say > religion, just > > > > > > > > > for the fun of it, would be like if you did not feel this > anger at > > > > > > > > > your percived stupidity of those that hold such views, > would be like. > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think it would be any diferant? Do you think for > example, you > > > > > > > > > may have somethin more meaningfull to contribute to debate > than your > > > > > > > > > standard rant like 'Perhaps you could point them out. I > can't seem to > > > > > > > > > sieve them out of > > > > > > > > > the BS. ' > > > > > > > > > > > Do you even understand that your dislike, disgust, and > disbelife of > > > > > > > > > what you percive to be stupidity, colours how you interact > with > > > > > > > > > people. Do you not think that by changing your state of > mind when > > > > > > > > > talking to people like, ohh me I guess, that you may well > get > > > > > > > > > something out of these little to-and-fro's? > > > > > > > > > > > Can you now add anything to the debate, or shall I expect > more > > > > > > > > > 'reactionary Chaz'? > > > > > > > > > > > On 27 Jan, 17:55, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 27, 5:49 pm, Lee <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then allow me. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chazy babe, do you think that by having a certian state > of mind you > > > > > > > > > > > cannot effect real change in your life? > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course you can. However any state of mind is > determined by the > > > > > > > > > > state of your life. I fail to see how any of this relates > to my > > > > > > > > > > posting above. > > > > > > > > > > > > > A for instance perhaps. > > > > > > > > > > > > > For instance if you 'wake up on the wrong side of the > bed' get ready > > > > > > > > > > > for work, leave the house only to have a car drive > through a puddle > > > > > > > > > > > and splashes your clothes, what are the chances of you > losing your rag > > > > > > > > > > > over it? > > > > > > > > > > > > I never let trivia rile me. Maybe you should have more > control? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now imagine, waking up in a happy mood, you have some > great thing to > > > > > > > > > > > look forward to today and your mood is so buoyant it > could make things > > > > > > > > > > > fly, when the car comes around and splashes your > clothes, how do you > > > > > > > > > > > feel? > > > > > > > > > > > > I think you might want to ask yourself why you have > problems some > > > > > > > > > > mornings and not others. I usually have reasons for my > state of mind > > > > > > > > > > of a morning - How about you? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would there be a differance do you think? > > > > > > > > > > > > No, there might be a "difference" though. > > > > > > > > > > What is your point? > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 27 Jan, 17:14, chazwin <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 27, 4:39 pm, archytas <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I used to start an MA research methods class with a > magic act. I > > > > > > > > > > > > > thought it a good way of looking at the differences > between illusion > > > > > > > > > > > > > and reality and an example of how easily we can be > bulled. Slip is > > > > > > > > > > > > > teasing, yet there are good questions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps you could point them out. I can't seem to > sieve them out of > > > > > > > > > > > > the BS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 27 Jan, 15:24, chazwin <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 25, 5:13 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is that it? Are there no scientific data > demonstrating the existence > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > or not of mental capacity, the transition of > subconscious to reality? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What of Edgar Cayce, Uri Geller, Randi, Libet, > Esp, telekinesis, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > psychic phenomena, apparitions, stigmata and > the many discussions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > taken place here regarding these issues? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All of this is demonstrably Bullshit. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is curious that you have Randi in the list - > it his he more than > > > > > > > > > > > > > > most that has shown all this stuff to be a > collection of conjuring > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tricks and weak minded nonsense. The best person > I have seen to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > demonstrate "mentalism" is Derren Brown. He can > read minds, levitate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > tables walk on glass, make impossible predictions > - the whole bang- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > shoot, though he says NONE of it has the > slightest thing to do with > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ESP - its just great psychology; no magic, just > illusion. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > There is however a serious and tragic need to > believe and even HIS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > audiences go away thinking they have seen magic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Have we reached the point of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > burnout or has rationale become so finite as to > totally dismiss on the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > basis of disbelief or absurdity? 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