It strikes me I'm usually as confused trying to make sense of what waking and apparently sentient human beings are up to Slip. I get waves of depression every so often and look to dreams for re- assurance. Snakes in my dreams usually take the form of glove puppets (seriously). I'm going to have a nap now and see if anything stirs. I don't hold much store in interpretations, though the interpretative conversation does hold something valuable.
On 3 Feb, 09:51, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > Good to see you back Frank. Thanks again for the interpretation. Try > the one about the river, the snake, the mountain, the room. Molly > seemed to have some insight on it. (see below) > > There are strange occurrences in dreams that leave us in a state of > awe at times delving deep for interpretation. What usually strikes me > most in my dreams are situations that are really bazaar and > unaccounted for in consciousness, the people I've never met and the > places I've never been. Regardless of the lucidity of dreams, some > are obviously very symbolic with unimaginable situations and objects, > like flying, clowns and the transformation of inanimate objects to > real life beings. I haven't paid much attention to dreams as of late > due to a Sciatica attack that has had me on heavy medication for the > past two weeks, I feel like I'm in a daze and can't really function > well, my equilibrium is imbalanced, my thoughts are fragmented and > I've lost continuity of focus. > > Still I value my dreams and try to piece them together. Dreams are > not part of the real world but a realm all unto it's own. That is why > I hypothesized on quantum dream travel, if it is not happening in my > conscious world then it is happening somewhere else. People tend to > think of dreams as being weird or strange without the slightest > consideration of how strange the world we live in is. I look around > and see a world that if represented in someone's dream a thousand > years ago, would be considered a very powerful dream, weird and > strange. We take for granted the strange world in which we live. > Therefore, I must accept the possibility that we are traveling in our > dreams to a parallel universe or somewhere here within our own world > via the quantum travel theory. How else could I dream of being > amongst orientals on a beach with ancient architecture around me, > another place in another time? > > I don't know that it would be possible to conduct experiments to > establish the viability of such a theory as dreams are still not > available to anyone but the dreamer and totally unique to the > dreamer's subconscious and unconscious world. I wouldn't say that all > dreams are connected to the dreamers reality due to the dreams that I > have had where no physical body was present but just a consciousness. > In this type of dream I may be connecting to another persons > consciousness in their reality, or actually connecting to that persons > subconscious dream state and witnessing that persons dream, again > regardless of the lucidity of the dream. Remember if you have no way > of identifying yourself in your dream then you really don't know for > sure that it is your dream. Perhaps I, personally, was not on a > beach with orientals but in my dream state I connected with someone > who was on the beach with orientals. I wonder sometimes if it is > possible for a persons thoughts, or dreams, to become part of a mesh > of energy that remains in tack for years only to be received by > someone later on, in thought or dream form. Like radio or other type > of wave that travels throughout our galaxy. > > Therefore when interpreting a dream it must be taken into account that > it may in fact not even be a dream but a connection to another > reality, or subconscious. A dream may have absolutely nothing to do > with the dreamer. Example is a dream I had years ago about jumping > into a taxi late afternoon, I don't know that it is really me because > I can't see myself in the mirror and there are no other details to > identify with, suddenly it starts to get dark and the taxi is driving > in the wrong direction and suddenly pulls over in a ghetto > neighborhood. Hoodlums with knives and guns approach the car and > drag (me) out trying to take my wallet and roughing with me. My heart > is pounding I start to run, I hear gun shots and wake up, my heart is > pounding and I'm gasping for breath. > > Was it me in the dream, was it someone else in the dream, was it > something that was happening that moment or something that happened > in the past, or was it someone's dream that I intercepted? > It is possible that an actual person took a cab and was driven by the > driver to a place where he could be robbed and the driver and the > hoodlums were part of a group of thieves? The intensity of the > persons fear sent massive amounts of energy into the cosmos for me to > pick up while I was sleeping. However, the first interpretation might > be that the incident represented my own fears about something and the > taxi represents the etc...............you see where I'm going with > this. > > The dreams and quantum travel thread opens up new avenues to explore > concerning dreams, avenues beyond that of traditional dream theorists > who connected the subconscious with reality, the spiritual dream state > with our conscious world. Quantum physics and the expansion of cosmic > understanding lend new meaning to dreams. There are many more > questions I ask myself about the dreams I awaken from. > > Naturally in the 9/11 dream it was obvious that it was me because I > could identify with me talking to my sister in law, so that is not the > type of dream I'm talking about here. That seemed, in retrospect, to > be a premonitory dream, one that I should have paid more attention > to. > > If you care to, try this one. > Recurring Dream: > > I used to have this recurring dream where I swam across a river, the > water was green but clear, a snake would swim under me and away. Upon > reaching the other side I would walk to the right down a dirt path to > a towering cliff. The path starts to go up the cliff but it gets > smaller and smaller without much room for footing, I'm high up near > the clouds. > I see an opening with a warm golden glowing light close by > but traversing this section is treacherous, and so I'm > clinging for dear life at this point. I finally make it and look > inside the hole which is an opening to someones home. The interior is > warm and very cozy. No one is there, I climb in but then I wake > up. > > The next time I have the same exact dream in the same exact place with > the same exact appearance except when I'm swimming across the river > I'm aware that I have been there before, I'm actually looking for the > snake. The snake appears and the dream continues and I'm remembering > being there before anticipating looking through the opening. I get > there and look in but no one is ever there. > > After the third and last time I could remember having the dream I had > to seriously spend some time thinking about the dream and rehashing > it's events as to try to put something together. But I never could > and it remains one of those mysterious dreams. > > On Feb 2, 9:32 pm, manfraco FranktheElder <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Slip > > So, it seems to me that you have come to the same conclusion about > > your ex as I have, since you believe that your subconscious cut her > > off from your dream that you had. > > I am not going to say much more about this dream, accept that I have > > come to the interpretation of the dream just through observations of > > my own dreams, I don’t know much about Jung’s, Nietzsche or other > > psychiatrists, but I have heard of them and read some of their > > writings but not in dept. > > I wish you good health and all the best, as we all need that at the > > later stage of our life. > > > Regards > > Manfraco > > > On Feb 2, 6:30 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Thanks for the parallel manfraco. I can say that I have never really > > > thought bad of her and I do speak with her on rare occasion, in fact > > > recently. I do remember that dream very vividly. I have to add that > > > I remember posting that she and my ex both worked in the wall street > > > section of Manhattan. Often I would drive into the city to pick them > > > both up. Why they both were not in the dream may have to do with the > > > degree of discord concerning the ex and my relegating her to that > > > realm where only a cacophony of wailing can be heard. However, > > > friendship with my sister in law never broke one step and we remain > > > the best of friends. Perhaps I picked the wrong sister but she was > > > only 11 at the time I met my wife to be, so that wouldn't have been an > > > option. > > > So I'm assuming that you are attaching a element of "truth represented > > > by an image" to dreams. As Molly points out, symbolic recognition may > > > play a very important part in the interpretation of my dream(s). I > > > can say that I have never had a dream that included her, before or > > > after that 9/11 dream, but I will pay more attention should she appear > > > in another. She is very attractive so I would hope it to be as > > > veracious as the others. What also concerns me is how much of that > > > dream can I assign to the actual occurrence in September of the same > > > year. > > > > On Jan 31, 10:23 pm, manfraco FranktheElder <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > Hi Slip and members of “Minds Eye” group, > > > > > I am replying to this thread not because I am qualified to answer it; > > > > but because a lot of what is being said runs parallel with my beliefs, > > > > and also this thread reminds me about Slip Disc cosmic and veracious > > > > dreams. So, since I may have an answer about Slip veracious dreams and > > > > this include cosmic and subconscious forces, I am trying to answer > > > > this tread with my parallel explanation of Slip Disc dreams in a > > > > parallel way. To know about this dream you may have to ask Slip. > > > > > If I remember right Slip is still trying to find out why his x sister > > > > in law was in his veracious dream about 9/11 and he can not see any > > > > links with her at all. Let me try to help Slip and say what I > > > > believe. > > > > > Well, I believe that Slip’s x sister in law represents truth for Slip, > > > > whether Slip is conscious that she is a good person or not, I do not > > > > know; but > > ... > > read more » --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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