Neil, glove puppets eh? Sounds like you are about ready to pull the curtian back. You are the Wiz!
On Feb 3, 2:07 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > It strikes me I'm usually as confused trying to make sense of what > waking and apparently sentient human beings are up to Slip. I get > waves of depression every so often and look to dreams for re- > assurance. Snakes in my dreams usually take the form of glove puppets > (seriously). I'm going to have a nap now and see if anything stirs. > I don't hold much store in interpretations, though the interpretative > conversation does hold something valuable. > > On 3 Feb, 09:51, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Good to see you back Frank. Thanks again for the interpretation. Try > > the one about the river, the snake, the mountain, the room. Molly > > seemed to have some insight on it. (see below) > > > There are strange occurrences in dreams that leave us in a state of > > awe at times delving deep for interpretation. What usually strikes me > > most in my dreams are situations that are really bazaar and > > unaccounted for in consciousness, the people I've never met and the > > places I've never been. Regardless of the lucidity of dreams, some > > are obviously very symbolic with unimaginable situations and objects, > > like flying, clowns and the transformation of inanimate objects to > > real life beings. I haven't paid much attention to dreams as of late > > due to a Sciatica attack that has had me on heavy medication for the > > past two weeks, I feel like I'm in a daze and can't really function > > well, my equilibrium is imbalanced, my thoughts are fragmented and > > I've lost continuity of focus. > > > Still I value my dreams and try to piece them together. Dreams are > > not part of the real world but a realm all unto it's own. That is why > > I hypothesized on quantum dream travel, if it is not happening in my > > conscious world then it is happening somewhere else. People tend to > > think of dreams as being weird or strange without the slightest > > consideration of how strange the world we live in is. I look around > > and see a world that if represented in someone's dream a thousand > > years ago, would be considered a very powerful dream, weird and > > strange. We take for granted the strange world in which we live. > > Therefore, I must accept the possibility that we are traveling in our > > dreams to a parallel universe or somewhere here within our own world > > via the quantum travel theory. How else could I dream of being > > amongst orientals on a beach with ancient architecture around me, > > another place in another time? > > > I don't know that it would be possible to conduct experiments to > > establish the viability of such a theory as dreams are still not > > available to anyone but the dreamer and totally unique to the > > dreamer's subconscious and unconscious world. I wouldn't say that all > > dreams are connected to the dreamers reality due to the dreams that I > > have had where no physical body was present but just a consciousness. > > In this type of dream I may be connecting to another persons > > consciousness in their reality, or actually connecting to that persons > > subconscious dream state and witnessing that persons dream, again > > regardless of the lucidity of the dream. Remember if you have no way > > of identifying yourself in your dream then you really don't know for > > sure that it is your dream. Perhaps I, personally, was not on a > > beach with orientals but in my dream state I connected with someone > > who was on the beach with orientals. I wonder sometimes if it is > > possible for a persons thoughts, or dreams, to become part of a mesh > > of energy that remains in tack for years only to be received by > > someone later on, in thought or dream form. Like radio or other type > > of wave that travels throughout our galaxy. > > > Therefore when interpreting a dream it must be taken into account that > > it may in fact not even be a dream but a connection to another > > reality, or subconscious. A dream may have absolutely nothing to do > > with the dreamer. Example is a dream I had years ago about jumping > > into a taxi late afternoon, I don't know that it is really me because > > I can't see myself in the mirror and there are no other details to > > identify with, suddenly it starts to get dark and the taxi is driving > > in the wrong direction and suddenly pulls over in a ghetto > > neighborhood. Hoodlums with knives and guns approach the car and > > drag (me) out trying to take my wallet and roughing with me. My heart > > is pounding I start to run, I hear gun shots and wake up, my heart is > > pounding and I'm gasping for breath. > > > Was it me in the dream, was it someone else in the dream, was it > > something that was happening that moment or something that happened > > in the past, or was it someone's dream that I intercepted? > > It is possible that an actual person took a cab and was driven by the > > driver to a place where he could be robbed and the driver and the > > hoodlums were part of a group of thieves? The intensity of the > > persons fear sent massive amounts of energy into the cosmos for me to > > pick up while I was sleeping. However, the first interpretation might > > be that the incident represented my own fears about something and the > > taxi represents the etc...............you see where I'm going with > > this. > > > The dreams and quantum travel thread opens up new avenues to explore > > concerning dreams, avenues beyond that of traditional dream theorists > > who connected the subconscious with reality, the spiritual dream state > > with our conscious world. Quantum physics and the expansion of cosmic > > understanding lend new meaning to dreams. There are many more > > questions I ask myself about the dreams I awaken from. > > > Naturally in the 9/11 dream it was obvious that it was me because I > > could identify with me talking to my sister in law, so that is not the > > type of dream I'm talking about here. That seemed, in retrospect, to > > be a premonitory dream, one that I should have paid more attention > > to. > > > If you care to, try this one. > > Recurring Dream: > > > I used to have this recurring dream where I swam across a river, the > > water was green but clear, a snake would swim under me and away. Upon > > reaching the other side I would walk to the right down a dirt path to > > a towering cliff. The path starts to go up the cliff but it gets > > smaller and smaller without much room for footing, I'm high up near > > the clouds. > > I see an opening with a warm golden glowing light close by > > but traversing this section is treacherous, and so I'm > > clinging for dear life at this point. I finally make it and look > > inside the hole which is an opening to someones home. The interior is > > warm and very cozy. No one is there, I climb in but then I wake > > up. > > > The next time I have the same exact dream in the same exact place with > > the same exact appearance except when I'm swimming across the river > > I'm aware that I have been there before, I'm actually looking for the > > snake. The snake appears and the dream continues and I'm remembering > > being there before anticipating looking through the opening. I get > > there and look in but no one is ever there. > > > After the third and last time I could remember having the dream I had > > to seriously spend some time thinking about the dream and rehashing > > it's events as to try to put something together. But I never could > > and it remains one of those mysterious dreams. > > > On Feb 2, 9:32 pm, manfraco FranktheElder <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Hi Slip > > > So, it seems to me that you have come to the same conclusion about > > > your ex as I have, since you believe that your subconscious cut her > > > off from your dream that you had. > > > I am not going to say much more about this dream, accept that I have > > > come to the interpretation of the dream just through observations of > > > my own dreams, I don’t know much about Jung’s, Nietzsche or other > > > psychiatrists, but I have heard of them and read some of their > > > writings but not in dept. > > > I wish you good health and all the best, as we all need that at the > > > later stage of our life. > > > > Regards > > > Manfraco > > > > On Feb 2, 6:30 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Thanks for the parallel manfraco. I can say that I have never really > > > > thought bad of her and I do speak with her on rare occasion, in fact > > > > recently. I do remember that dream very vividly. I have to add that > > > > I remember posting that she and my ex both worked in the wall street > > > > section of Manhattan. Often I would drive into the city to pick them > > > > both up. Why they both were not in the dream may have to do with the > > > > degree of discord concerning the ex and my relegating her to that > > > > realm where only a cacophony of wailing can be heard. However, > > > > friendship with my sister in law never broke one step and we remain > > > > the best of friends. Perhaps I picked the wrong sister but she was > > > > only 11 at the time I met my wife to be, so that wouldn't have been an > > > > option. > > > > So I'm assuming that you are attaching a element of "truth represented > > > > by an image" to dreams. As Molly points out, symbolic recognition may > > > > play a very important part in the interpretation of my dream(s). I > > > > can say that I have never had a dream that included her, before or > > > > after that 9/11 dream, but I will pay more attention should she appear > > > > in another. She is very attractive so I would hope it to be as > > > > veracious as the others. What also concerns me is how much of that > > > > dream can I assign to the actual occurrence in September of the same > > > > year. > > > > > On Jan 31, 10:23 pm, manfraco FranktheElder <[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Slip and members of “Minds Eye” group, > > > > > > I am replying to this thread not because I am qualified to answer it; > > > > > but because a lot of what is being said runs > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
