Slip Disc, there's no reason to dismiss it, when it's been well documented,
and fully explained.
Google "effects of DiMethylTryptamine".

On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 10:12 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> We can't dismiss the possibility of out of body experience and the
> occurrence of other phenomena in the death experience, based upon
> death in the sleep mode. Coming from you Pat, I'm a bit dismayed as
> you should have the wherewithal to explain it better than I.  However,
> I can relay a portion of my experience within a coma at which time I
> did know I was dying, so even in the subconscious mind there is
> "awareness" of death.  Would you rather be awake watching yourself die
> or be a floating apparition watching yourself sleep?  Aside from that
> we can't be sure that a person who dies sleeping was actually in fact
> sleeping by all outward appearances.  One could be too weak to open
> the eyes but be very well aware of the people standing around and the
> impending cross over into the afterlife.
>
> On Feb 16, 6:39 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 16 Feb, 01:17, gruff <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > What you say is true.  There is no assurances, but I'd still be
> > > willing to bet my life on it being more comfortable or at the least
> > > aware.   That is my greatest desire to be cogently aware of what's
> > > going on as it happens.  I'd give up calm and peace for awareness.
> > > Though I must say your fur coat in hunting season approach has it's
> > > points.
> >
> >   You and me both, Gruff.  I want to know when it's coming.  The LAST
> > thing I want to do is to die in my sleep: how will I know I'm dead?
> > Especially if there IS and aftertime.  Of course, if there isn't, then
> > it won't matter; but I'd still prefer to know that the time is coming
> > so I can acknowledge the end of my life.  But, whatever happens, it
> > will be that which is required to happen and my desires and
> > preferences are, most likely, irrelevant.
> >
> > > On Feb 15, 11:06 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > > Who is to say that your suicidal method will assure more comfort and
> > > > exclude any and all instances of panic, including but not limited to
> > > > subconscious awareness of self induced destruction leading to a
> > > > struggle out of simple survival instinct, which may no longer be
> > > > optional to the conscious mind after succumbing to the inducement.
> > > > The body may react violently to fight off the inducement and appear
> as
> > > > if in a state of turmoil or torment.  We may imagine a drug induced
> > > > demise to be passive but can not identify with the subconscious as
> > > > what is exactly going on.  This is a controversial subject concerning
> > > > the use of lethal injection in criminal death penalty cases.
> > > > Personally I would opt to wear a fur coat in a densely wooded area
> > > > during hunting season and make loud grunting sounds.- Hide quoted
> text -
> >
> > > - Show quoted text -
> >
>

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