May your prophesy come true Allen!
On Apr 30, 10:21 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote:
> I think many of the leaders in the world are very very money orientated to
> the point of greed. In the US bush took a major bribe even before even took
> office his ranch A "GIFT!" (Bribe) was given him for winning? the
> election. This is just one example of a leader being bought and paid for.
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> But I think that little discussion groups like ours is the real hope becase
> we can and do speak pretty freely with little or nothing to gain. One day
> ideas will form that will allow humanity to progress in a forward direction.
> Allan
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> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:44 PM, Tina <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > I do agree with ur point of view but problem is that the decision
> > makers
> > like President or PM are not connected mentally to their people how
> > have voted them,
> > Saddam killed many people , same Bush did. You will see all the top
> > leaders of every
> > country are going some thing which is related to their personal gains
> > like their position.
> > In India u will find , since election are coming , all the
> > participating parties are promising
> > people undue advantages which is not good for the whole country but
> > only to a community.
> > I feel to deliver collective mentality one should come in front of
> > stage and move ahead.
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> > On Apr 30, 8:27 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > Why is it that Slip and I are the only ones making an effort to
> > > discover a way to access that power? We spend most of our energy
> > > trying to overcome the denials of a possibility. <<<Tinker
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> > > Because we are already part of the collective mentality, have access
> > > and realize the beauty of it and want to share it. I already have
> > > access and have experiences resultant of that access. The quantum
> > > dream thread was born of the questions that arose from having access.
> > > Note: Having access and relaying that access to others is the
> > > dilemma. In the dream thread Pat brought up an interesting feature of
> > > the quantum dream state, that being one in which interaction takes
> > > place. I quantum dream, let's say, to a mansion on a hillside in
> > > specific town in Spain, leave a note in a drawer for you. The next
> > > night or whenever, you quantum dream to the same place, you enter the
> > > mansion, you find the drawer with the note, you a call to tell me you
> > > received the note.
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> > > This is possibly the only way we might be able to reach others, in the
> > > sense that through the dreams of others we can deliver the collective
> > > mentality message. Perhaps there are others, here or somewhere else,
> > > doing exactly that and that is why some of us have very lucid and
> > > powerful dreams, the ones from which we awaken wondering what is was
> > > all about, trying to perceive and decipher the meaning of it. We have
> > > to understand that some of us are all ready advanced in the knowledge,
> > > the enlightenment and have access to other realms. "That" is why we
> > > are even talking about it!!!
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> > > Walk up to your average Jay Q Public person and ask them what they
> > > think about quantum dream travel and they will tell you, "Huh! Uhh
> > > Dream What?" This is the obstacle and the challenge to which we can
> > > apply understanding through the other realm, changing someone's way of
> > > thinking in their dream. We can't simply make the change by talking
> > > but we possibly can make the change by dream influence, as with
> > > Ebenezer Scrooge. You must see the movie "Dreamscape" which addresses
> > > a concept in it's own way, with all the typical movie plots. But
> > > basically a patient experiencing nightmares and a psychic sleep side
> > > by side in a dream study laboratory, the psychic enters the dream of
> > > the patient to find out what the problem is, within the dream the
> > > psychic interacts with the patient to destroy/change the internal
> > > dream sequence to eliminate the nightmares. Add the crime element and
> > > you have the rest of the movie.
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> > > We covered some of this in the dream thread, but imagine that on any
> > > given night several Minds Eye members gather together in the dream
> > > state at a previously specified familiar to everyone place. Why
> > > bother with air travel and driving when we could just meet within a
> > > lucid dream? Let's say one night we meet at the Alamo at 3am central
> > > time within a dream. We all stand at the door, hey Molly is that
> > > you?, yeah slip I was just talking to tinker and we're waiting for
> > > orn, arch couldn't make it because his neighbors stole his dream. lol
> > > But can you see this as a possibility or am I just dreaming? lol I
> > > think it highly possible and that is what I was trying get at with the
> > > dreams and quantum travel thread. I can't begin to tell you how many
> > > places I've been to, experiences I've had and the great effect dreams
> > > have had upon how I think today.
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> > > These are not the subjects that dominate the minds of the masses as
> > > they struggle to maintain and survive. Governments, corporations and
> > > organizations know this well and have done little if anything to
> > > promote unity on the common level. Separation of minds creates chaos
> > > from which they weave their webs of corruption and usury. From the
> > > chaos huge fortunes are made, it is obvious at this point in history
> > > that people are possibly the furthest from being united. People are
> > > fed the fodder of distrust, doubt and pessimism and perceive the
> > > future as some dismal, abhorrent and unavailing world full of
> > > hopelessness and despondence.
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