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On May 4, 9:33�pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
> If I were a guy, I would love you rigsy, you've intrigued me already.
>
> On May 4, 6:28�pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Yes. It explodes in the arts. Have done the whole trip- painting,
> > music, needlearts, poetry, gardening, cooking, diplomas. It still
> > doesn't cure a lost heart. I am now a hermitess living in a grand
> > house. My children are scattered and I was a good mother to them.
> > Maybe that is Love.
>
> > On May 4, 5:04 pm, Rosey <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Love is beauty and pain defined. But in order to experience the pain
> > > you must see its beauty. Which often happens unexpectedly. I wish I
> > > wasn't one of those people that think with their heart. What is the
> > > value of brilliance when the actions of your heart blind you from
> > > using it? When I think of love, it's a deep, deep, longing for
> > > passion. Perhaps a flight without a plane. Or a swim without water.
> > > Maybe even a delicacy tasted without swallowing. It's there but your
> > > wary from it, worried about losing it, careful but not capable of
> > > determining whether you keep it or not, as love does change. It gives
> > > one the ability to things they would never expect.
>
> > > For example: I was able to play a tune on the piano, yet I don't play
> > > the piano. No, not expertly, I would post a link to it but would be
> > > worried about getting critiqued by experts. I am no expert and don't
> > > play the piano, never have, we bought a keyboard about two months ago,
> > > yet I managed a whole heart felt tune, I closed my eyes and let my
> > > fingers work their own magic. Do you think love gives one
> > > abilities?
>
> > > On May 4, 5:46 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > I am one of you- though disappointed and resigned. I look back over my
> > > > life as a grief of love. Take my heart but spare me my money. The last
> > > > time I heard "jaded" was from my highschool sweetheart who I dated for
> > > > a year after he divorced from a 30 year marriage. He was still a jerk
> > > > and died soon after I left him. Stuff happens.
>
> > > > On May 4, 3:54 pm, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > Hmmm...I don't know, from what I hear, age is no barrier to love nor
> > > > > lust. ;)
>
> > > > > Glad to have you aboard. Strong opening salvo, though! No soft spot at
> > > > > all for us romantics?
>
> > > > > On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 4:39 PM, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Thank you for Monday's laugh! One is allowed. Two would be
> > > > > > lethal.// I
> > > > > > wasn't sure this thought would get through but I would like to read
> > > > > > along in this group. I am a grandmother so somewhat protected from
> > > > > > foolish fancy even in the lusty month of May. I lust after William
> > > > > > Safire. :-) Anyway, thanks for the welcome.//
>
> > > > > > On May 4, 10:35 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >> Ah, the voice of the jaded.
>
> > > > > >> Welcome, Rigsy. Care to tell us a story?
>
> > > > > >> [ Attached Message ]From:rigsy03 <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds
> > > > > >> Eye\"" <[email protected]>Date:Mon, 4 May 2009 06:16:08
> > > > > >> -0700 (PDT)Local:Mon, May 4 2009 8:16 amSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re:
> > > > > >> What is the nature of Love?
>
> > > > > >> Love is a myth and marketing tool.
>
> > > > > >> On May 4, 8:10 am, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]>
> > > > > >> wrote:
>
> > > > > >> > Not always, but definitely at least sometimes. There is much
> > > > > >> > healing in a loving touch.
>
> > > > > >> > [ Attached Message ]From:Rosey <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds
> > > > > >> > Eye\"" <[email protected]>Date:Mon, 4 May 2009 05:53:04
> > > > > >> > -0700 (PDT)Local:Mon, May 4 2009 7:53 amSubject:[Mind's Eye] Re:
> > > > > >> > What is the nature of Love?
>
> > > > > >> > Is affection healing? Can a person kiss and hug the pain away? I
> > > > > >> > believe this tactic works. But for some it does not.
>
> > > > > >> > On May 4, 8:41 am, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > >> > > I think I understand and I do appreciate your words here Vam.
> > > > > >> > > We all,
> > > > > >> > > each of us, deserve to be surrounded by those that love us
> > > > > >> > > unconditionally, and allow us to be who we are as we evolve and
> > > > > >> > > awaken. The key for me has been to provide this to those
> > > > > >> > > around me. I
> > > > > >> > > have found that in doing so, I am surrounded by folks who can
> > > > > >> > > love in
> > > > > >> > > the same way. This does not mean that I allow myself to be
> > > > > >> > > exploited
> > > > > >> > > or abused, because I think that a part of unconditional love is
> > > > > >> > > bringing such behavior by the other to light, and then moving
> > > > > >> > > away
> > > > > >> > > from it, allowing the other to learn or not. There are times
> > > > > >> > > when
> > > > > >> > > compassion is enough and the relationship becoming peripheral
> > > > > >> > > is in
> > > > > >> > > perfect order. Your unconditional love then includes honesty,
> > > > > >> > > appreciation and psychological safety for all. These can be
> > > > > >> > > provided
> > > > > >> > > through deep intimacy or great distance. There is a grace that
> > > > > >> > > leads
> > > > > >> > > the way.
>
> > > > > >> > > On May 4, 12:49 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]>
> > > > > >> > > wrote:
>
> > > > > >> > > > " Affection, in all forms, is an extremely valuable and
> > > > > >> > > > important part
> > > > > >> > > > of the relationship to me ... "
>
> > > > > >> > > > And Grace, both while giving to and receiving from ... But,
> > > > > >> > > > valuable
> > > > > >> > > > and important as they are, these are still the atmospherics.
> > > > > >> > > > The
> > > > > >> > > > crucial part is the quality of ' being ' individuals sense
> > > > > >> > > > within
> > > > > >> > > > themselves, and the opportunity they have to ' be '
> > > > > >> > > > themselves, to
> > > > > >> > > > grow and evolve and continue to transform the ' I - Space '
> > > > > >> > > > within to
> > > > > >> > > > greater sense of strength, happiness, freedom and self -
> > > > > >> > > > discovery.
>
> > > > > >> > > > We are all striving for that rich and pregnant ground of ' I
> > > > > >> > > > - space '
> > > > > >> > > > in which our finitude dissolves. The others are important to
> > > > > >> > > > us, in
> > > > > >> > > > this context, for the atmospherics they cause or contribute
> > > > > >> > > > to. It can
> > > > > >> > > > aid or mar the ' awakening.'
>
> > > > > >> > > > We each love the other, for the love of our Self !
>
> > > > > >> > > > ( I waited long before punching the ' Send ' button,
> > > > > >> > > > wondering if what
> > > > > >> > > > I'm posting makes any sense. Even, if it is appropriate ? )
>
> > > > > >> > > > On May 4, 7:57 am, Chris Jenkins
> > > > > >> > > > <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > >> > > > > I think (a very necessary disclaimer in topics such as
> > > > > >> > > > > these) that the secret may be to only require commitment
> > > > > >> > > > > from your partner, to continue to freely be who you are,
> > > > > >> > > > > and expect the same from them, and to strive for the happy
> > > > > >> > > > > balance of compromise and acceptance in the places where
> > > > > >> > > > > friction inevitably occurs. Sometimes we align ourselves
> > > > > >> > > > > with partners who have drastically different life goals,
> > > > > >> > > > > and that's simply not possible. Other times our partners,
> > > > > >> > > > > or we ourselves, are in a self destructive place which is
> > > > > >> > > > > simply not conducive to a healthy relationship. If,
> > > > > >> > > > > however, we are both aligned similarly, and both committed
> > > > > >> > > > > to that goal, then a zen state of love, where it is not
> > > > > >> > > > > questioned, but simply is, seems to me to be the path to a
> > > > > >> > > > > long term bliss.
>
> > > > > >> > > > > If everyday, despite the day I've had, I make the effort
> > > > > >> > > > > to express some portion of Eros energy to my partner, even
> > > > > >> > > > > if in no other form than text message, I've "been", in the
> > > > > >> > > > > zen sense, affirmed the love, made it be by being it. When
> > > > > >> > > > > that is affirmed in reply, that circle is completed. The
> > > > > >> > > > > actual physical expenditure of the ritual is miniscule,
> > > > > >> > > > > yet the effect is powerful.
>
> > > > > >> > > > > Affection, in all forms, is an extremely valuable and
> > > > > >> > > > > important part of the relationship to me, which Is just
> > > > > >> > > > > one of the many ides of Love I inherit from my Father.
> > > > > >> > > > > He's still married to my Mom, and from all appearances,
> > > > > >> > > > > still in love with her in an Eros kind of way. :-D It's a
> > > > > >> > > > > strong archetype to have in your head of what a long term
> > > > > >> > > > > love can be. I can't imagine the idea of my Father being
> > > > > >> > > > > unfaithful to my Mom. It's inconceivable to me.
>
> > > > > >> > > > > It strikes me Neil that one of the problems with Love is
> > > > > >> > > > > that most of the wisdom about it doesn't come until our
> > > > > >> > > > > later years, and many of us either don't have a proper
> > > > > >> > > > > Sage around, or are a bit too damn fool hardy in our
> > > > > >> > > > > youths to listen if we do.
>
> > > > > >> > > > > [ Attached Message ]From:archytas
> > > > > >> > > > > <[email protected]>To:"\"Minds Eye\""
> > > > > >> > > > > <[email protected]>Date:Sun, 3 May 2009 18:30:21
> > > > > >> > > > > -0700 (PDT)Local:Mon, May 4 2009 6:30 amSubject:[Mind's
> > > > > >> > > > > Eye] Re: What is the nature of Love?
>
> > > > > >> > > > > There is some thinking that love is over-stated and leads
> > > > > >> > > > > to over-
> > > > > >> > > > > expectation, perhaps rather strangely making loving
> > > > > >> > > > > relationship more
> > > > > >> > > > > difficult than it needs to be. Raising any of us fallible
> > > > > >> > > > > humans to a
> > > > > >> > > > > golden pedestal is to put whoever it is before a fall. One
> > > > > >> > > > > can
> > > > > >> > > > > certainly be loving and it appears this can be reciprocal,
> > > > > >> > > > > though I'd
> > > > > >> > > > > expect this to be less than perfect or bound in mutual
> > > > > >> > > > > illusions.
> > > > > >> > > > > Freedom from exploitation seems key to me, along with some
> > > > > >> > > > > form of
> > > > > >> > > > > understanding on equality. I can say that I wish I had
> > > > > >> > > > > been better
> > > > > >> > > > > able to enjoy sex earlier in my life through some decent
> > > > > >> > > > > education
> > > > > >> > > > > about it.
>
> > > > > >> > > > > On 4 May, 01:07, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > >> > > > > > Exactly, trust is essential to the bond, it is the
> > > > > >> > > > > > adhesive quality
> > > > > >> > > > > > that transforms two into one. The bond can be broken and
> > > > > >> > > > > > repaired but
> > > > > >> > > > > > it forever has the crack that remains a visible
> > > > > >> > > > > > detraction and
> > > > > >> > > > > > possibly a perpetual doubt which can fester at anytime
> > > > > >> > > > > > under testing
> > > > > >> > > > > > situations, such as out of town overnight business
> > > > > >> > > > > > meetings or the
> > > > > >> > > > > > introduction of a past
>
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