Heh in many ways I find that we are all still teenagers. Teenagers, cannot be taught and must nessicarily leanr there lessons for themsleves, and yes many times only the hard way will suffice.
Even with spirtuality we seem incapable of learning from others, perhaps then keeping your mouth shut is the best choice. However get me in a pub and you can tell me all about it. ;-) On 18 May, 12:34, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > i have not heard of the 8-folded path as i have not read anything of > signifigance for decades, since even before my OBE's. like Siddartha > (Herman Hesse) who, dissatisfied with his religion, followed Buddha > and many other paths in the attempt to find enlightenment, ended up > sitting beside a river by himself. this, i feel, is what many people > are missing. they look outside of themselves for the answer, while all > the time everything they need to know resides right there inside of > themselves. > > i feel that my 'journey' gave me a snapshot of 'heaven' or 'god', but > this is not something that i would typically promote, especially to > friends who would consider me an arrogant bag of wind. i initially > started trying to express the unbelievable experience that i had but > noticed peoples eyes going blank and then they would avoid me at all > costs. i learned very quickly that i should keep my experiences to > myself, or at least only share them with those who may have an inkling > of what i am talking about. unfortunately, this opportunity has been > rare. i am not saying that many havent had similar experiences. it > could be that my experience removed my requirement for social > interaction and i more or less became a hermit, stewing in the warmth > of my spirit... > > On May 18, 12:34 am, Charlie43 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On May 17, 9:37 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > i think one must consider the difference between imagination and > > > inspiration. one is developed, the other realized. > > > > the original feeling that led to a series of OBE's happened as i was > > > lying in bed with eyes closed, just before sleep. i started to get the > > > sensation of being drawn out of my body, like a strong magnetic > > > pulling, and it had nothing to do with imagination. i was scared > > > because i felt my spirit was going to leave my body, and i did not > > > want an evil spirit to enter while i was gone, so i resisted. i wanted > > > to go, but kept shutting the attraction down out of fear. one day > > > while experiencing this pulling i said, 'mr devil, im going on a > > > journey and u aint allowed into this body while im gone', then i > > > released my spirit and i have never been the same since... > > > > On May 16, 3:29 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > "desperatly need to beleive" > > > > > That's the key to understanding all spiritual beliefs. > > > > The 'fear of the unknown' is the root of the 'fear of death'. > > > > For the common man (99.99%) the imagination is the only relief. For > > > > the weak imagination, there are plenty of dogmas to ascribe to for the > > > > comfort needed. Imagining a dogma to be true is good enough for > > > > holding the 'fear' at bay. > > > > > An eternal Life without the elements of Life is a joke. It's a > > > > ridiculous fabrication of the imagination. > > > > There is absolutely no substance to the idea. Every belief of an after > > > > Life has absolutely no other source of verification than the human > > > > 'living' mind's imagination. > > > > Everything spiritual has the Life as a reference point. All of the > > > > mystical mediums can gain the knowledge, they claim comes from the > > > > dead, from the collective intelligence of mankind. > > > > The collective intelligence is the only thing 'spiritual' about > > > > mankind. > > > > > You are not alone, but we are very few who can face the 'fear'. > > > > > peace & Love > > > > > On May 16, 4:24 am, buddahspath <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > just pondering a thought after a tramatic funeral and evening of > > > > > emotional arguments between me[AGNOSTIC PHILOSIPHER] and my family > > > > > fundementalist christians. who desperatly need to beleive what they > > > > > have taught to believe is reality.i beleve to be irrational > > > > > brainwashing! i am well aware that i have no comforting fairy tales of > > > > > wonderful afterlife.i seriously doubt that a eternal life with no > > > > > interestig challenges would be a tortureous hell! but maybe there > > > > > could be some sort of nirvanic stages to grow as individuals and > > > > > universe? but i guess as long my brain,heart,lungs and nervous system > > > > > cooperate i journey through my own dream,fantasies and delusions of my > > > > > imagination! doubt that i am the only souljourner on the road less > > > > > travelled!- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > Interesting conversation. I have walked the 8-folded path for many > > years, and am pleased with what the Enlightened One has to offer to > > me. I was raised in a Christian home, and realized early on how > > pathetic that was. I have a questioning mind, which has lead me to > > Buddhism. I find the principles of Buddhism to be both exact and > > based on scientific explanation. I have often wanted to talk to > > someone who has been to Heaven - or Hell - to see what their > > experiences were. So far, I have had no takers. I wonder why...- Hide > > quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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