Dear Charlie43...when you have in fact walked the path long enough you will find that nirvana and the kingdom are one and the same.
On May 17, 9:34 pm, Charlie43 <[email protected]> wrote: > On May 17, 9:37 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > i think one must consider the difference between imagination and > > inspiration. one is developed, the other realized. > > > the original feeling that led to a series of OBE's happened as i was > > lying in bed with eyes closed, just before sleep. i started to get the > > sensation of being drawn out of my body, like a strong magnetic > > pulling, and it had nothing to do with imagination. i was scared > > because i felt my spirit was going to leave my body, and i did not > > want an evil spirit to enter while i was gone, so i resisted. i wanted > > to go, but kept shutting the attraction down out of fear. one day > > while experiencing this pulling i said, 'mr devil, im going on a > > journey and u aint allowed into this body while im gone', then i > > released my spirit and i have never been the same since... > > > On May 16, 3:29 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > "desperatly need to beleive" > > > > That's the key to understanding all spiritual beliefs. > > > The 'fear of the unknown' is the root of the 'fear of death'. > > > For the common man (99.99%) the imagination is the only relief. For > > > the weak imagination, there are plenty of dogmas to ascribe to for the > > > comfort needed. Imagining a dogma to be true is good enough for > > > holding the 'fear' at bay. > > > > An eternal Life without the elements of Life is a joke. It's a > > > ridiculous fabrication of the imagination. > > > There is absolutely no substance to the idea. Every belief of an after > > > Life has absolutely no other source of verification than the human > > > 'living' mind's imagination. > > > Everything spiritual has the Life as a reference point. All of the > > > mystical mediums can gain the knowledge, they claim comes from the > > > dead, from the collective intelligence of mankind. > > > The collective intelligence is the only thing 'spiritual' about > > > mankind. > > > > You are not alone, but we are very few who can face the 'fear'. > > > > peace & Love > > > > On May 16, 4:24 am, buddahspath <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > just pondering a thought after a tramatic funeral and evening of > > > > emotional arguments between me[AGNOSTIC PHILOSIPHER] and my family > > > > fundementalist christians. who desperatly need to beleive what they > > > > have taught to believe is reality.i beleve to be irrational > > > > brainwashing! i am well aware that i have no comforting fairy tales of > > > > wonderful afterlife.i seriously doubt that a eternal life with no > > > > interestig challenges would be a tortureous hell! but maybe there > > > > could be some sort of nirvanic stages to grow as individuals and > > > > universe? but i guess as long my brain,heart,lungs and nervous system > > > > cooperate i journey through my own dream,fantasies and delusions of my > > > > imagination! doubt that i am the only souljourner on the road less > > > > travelled!- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > Interesting conversation. I have walked the 8-folded path for many > years, and am pleased with what the Enlightened One has to offer to > me. I was raised in a Christian home, and realized early on how > pathetic that was. I have a questioning mind, which has lead me to > Buddhism. I find the principles of Buddhism to be both exact and > based on scientific explanation. I have often wanted to talk to > someone who has been to Heaven - or Hell - to see what their > experiences were. So far, I have had no takers. I wonder why...- Hide > quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
