On May 17, 9:37 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
> i think one must consider the difference between imagination and
> inspiration. one is developed, the other realized.
I can agree with that. I'd expand on "realized" to say that it is
connecting to the collective intelligence.
> the original feeling that led to a series of OBE's happened as i was
> lying in bed with eyes closed, just before sleep. i started to get the
> sensation of being drawn out of my body, like a strong magnetic
> pulling, and it had nothing to do with imagination.
I would think that you realized (connected to the col. intel.)
something greater than your existence, and then you chose to define it
as you do.
i was scared
> because i felt my spirit was going to leave my body, and i did not
> want an evil spirit to enter while i was gone, so i resisted. i wanted
> to go, but kept shutting the attraction down out of fear. one day
> while experiencing this pulling i said, 'mr devil, im going on a
> journey and u aint allowed into this body while im gone', then i
> released my spirit and i have never been the same since...
That you had to tell the devil to leave your body alone leans way
towards imagination :-)
peace & Love
> On May 16, 3:29 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > "desperatly need to beleive"
>
> > That's the key to understanding all spiritual beliefs.
> > The 'fear of the unknown' is the root of the 'fear of death'.
> > For the common man (99.99%) the imagination is the only relief. For
> > the weak imagination, there are plenty of dogmas to ascribe to for the
> > comfort needed. Imagining a dogma to be true is good enough for
> > holding the 'fear' at bay.
>
> > An eternal Life without the elements of Life is a joke. It's a
> > ridiculous fabrication of the imagination.
> > There is absolutely no substance to the idea. Every belief of an after
> > Life has absolutely no other source of verification than the human
> > 'living' mind's imagination.
> > Everything spiritual has the Life as a reference point. All of the
> > mystical mediums can gain the knowledge, they claim comes from the
> > dead, from the collective intelligence of mankind.
> > The collective intelligence is the only thing 'spiritual' about
> > mankind.
>
> > You are not alone, but we are very few who can face the 'fear'.
>
> > peace & Love
>
> > On May 16, 4:24 am, buddahspath <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > just pondering a thought after a tramatic funeral and evening of
> > > emotional arguments between me[AGNOSTIC PHILOSIPHER] and my family
> > > fundementalist christians. who desperatly need to beleive what they
> > > have taught to believe is reality.i beleve to be irrational
> > > brainwashing! i am well aware that i have no comforting fairy tales of
> > > wonderful afterlife.i seriously doubt that a eternal life with no
> > > interestig challenges would be a tortureous hell! but maybe there
> > > could be some sort of nirvanic stages to grow as individuals and
> > > universe? but i guess as long my brain,heart,lungs and nervous system
> > > cooperate i journey through my own dream,fantasies and delusions of my
> > > imagination! doubt that i am the only souljourner on the road less
> > > travelled!- Hide quoted text -
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