lol...been there...done that
On May 18, 7:46 am, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Heh in many ways I find that we are all still teenagers.
>
> Teenagers, cannot be taught and must nessicarily leanr there lessons
> for themsleves, and yes many times only the hard way will suffice.
>
> Even with spirtuality we seem incapable of learning from others,
> perhaps then keeping your mouth shut is the best choice. However get
> me in a pub and you can tell me all about it. ;-)
>
> On 18 May, 12:34, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > i have not heard of the 8-folded path as i have not read anything of
> > signifigance for decades, since even before my OBE's. like Siddartha
> > (Herman Hesse) who, dissatisfied with his religion, followed Buddha
> > and many other paths in the attempt to find enlightenment, ended up
> > sitting beside a river by himself. this, i feel, is what many people
> > are missing. they look outside of themselves for the answer, while all
> > the time everything they need to know resides right there inside of
> > themselves.
>
> > i feel that my 'journey' gave me a snapshot of 'heaven' or 'god', but
> > this is not something that i would typically promote, especially to
> > friends who would consider me an arrogant bag of wind. i initially
> > started trying to express the unbelievable experience that i had but
> > noticed peoples eyes going blank and then they would avoid me at all
> > costs. i learned very quickly that i should keep my experiences to
> > myself, or at least only share them with those who may have an inkling
> > of what i am talking about. unfortunately, this opportunity has been
> > rare. i am not saying that many havent had similar experiences. it
> > could be that my experience removed my requirement for social
> > interaction and i more or less became a hermit, stewing in the warmth
> > of my spirit...
>
> > On May 18, 12:34 am, Charlie43 <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > On May 17, 9:37 pm, e_space <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > i think one must consider the difference between imagination and
> > > > inspiration. one is developed, the other realized.
>
> > > > the original feeling that led to a series of OBE's happened as i was
> > > > lying in bed with eyes closed, just before sleep. i started to get the
> > > > sensation of being drawn out of my body, like a strong magnetic
> > > > pulling, and it had nothing to do with imagination. i was scared
> > > > because i felt my spirit was going to leave my body, and i did not
> > > > want an evil spirit to enter while i was gone, so i resisted. i wanted
> > > > to go, but kept shutting the attraction down out of fear. one day
> > > > while experiencing this pulling i said, 'mr devil, im going on a
> > > > journey and u aint allowed into this body while im gone', then i
> > > > released my spirit and i have never been the same since...
>
> > > > On May 16, 3:29 pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > "desperatly need to beleive"
>
> > > > > That's the key to understanding all spiritual beliefs.
> > > > > The 'fear of the unknown' is the root of the 'fear of death'.
> > > > > For the common man (99.99%) the imagination is the only relief. For
> > > > > the weak imagination, there are plenty of dogmas to ascribe to for the
> > > > > comfort needed. Imagining a dogma to be true is good enough for
> > > > > holding the 'fear' at bay.
>
> > > > > An eternal Life without the elements of Life is a joke. It's a
> > > > > ridiculous fabrication of the imagination.
> > > > > There is absolutely no substance to the idea. Every belief of an after
> > > > > Life has absolutely no other source of verification than the human
> > > > > 'living' mind's imagination.
> > > > > Everything spiritual has the Life as a reference point. All of the
> > > > > mystical mediums can gain the knowledge, they claim comes from the
> > > > > dead, from the collective intelligence of mankind.
> > > > > The collective intelligence is the only thing 'spiritual' about
> > > > > mankind.
>
> > > > > You are not alone, but we are very few who can face the 'fear'.
>
> > > > > peace & Love
>
> > > > > On May 16, 4:24 am, buddahspath <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > just pondering a thought after a tramatic funeral and evening of
> > > > > > emotional arguments between me[AGNOSTIC PHILOSIPHER] and my family
> > > > > > fundementalist christians. who desperatly need to beleive what they
> > > > > > have taught to believe is reality.i beleve to be irrational
> > > > > > brainwashing! i am well aware that i have no comforting fairy tales
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > wonderful afterlife.i seriously doubt that a eternal life with no
> > > > > > interestig challenges would be a tortureous hell! but maybe there
> > > > > > could be some sort of nirvanic stages to grow as individuals and
> > > > > > universe? but i guess as long my brain,heart,lungs and nervous
> > > > > > system
> > > > > > cooperate i journey through my own dream,fantasies and delusions of
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > imagination! doubt that i am the only souljourner on the road less
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> > > Interesting conversation. I have walked the 8-folded path for many
> > > years, and am pleased with what the Enlightened One has to offer to
> > > me. I was raised in a Christian home, and realized early on how
> > > pathetic that was. I have a questioning mind, which has lead me to
> > > Buddhism. I find the principles of Buddhism to be both exact and
> > > based on scientific explanation. I have often wanted to talk to
> > > someone who has been to Heaven - or Hell - to see what their
> > > experiences were. So far, I have had no takers. I wonder why...- Hide
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