Was it as good as the Carbona?
On Jun 25, 4:57 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
> I discoverd Energine in the bath off my playroom at six or seven.
> Probably ruined my brain. Can not stand the odor of dry cleaners.
>
> On Jun 25, 4:20 pm, kevirwin <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > I like what you wrote; so now there's two topics I'll get back to you
> > on at some point (Consciouness/random thoughts was the other topic).
>
> > I was in a pysche ward for a few days for contemplating suicide in '96
> > (I own hand guns and actullay kept a SWAT team outside my house for
> > over 24 hours; long, mildly entertaining story, but not now).....
>
> > You're spot-on right about this:
> > <quote>
> > If you thought about it when you were 8 you will think about it when
> > you are 38, 58 or 88.
> > <end quote>
>
> > I got nothing to really complain about...Life hasn't been that hard
> > for me -- just don't like it here on this miserable sphere -- and yet
> > I persist and make my time as pleasant as possible, not hurting &
> > helping when I can...But I think of getting "paroled" from my "life
> > sentence" fairly often...............
>
> > I'll get back to ya',
> > K e v
>
> > On Jun 20, 9:08 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > It is not just the habit of poets rigsy. Suicide is the eleventh most
> > > common
> > > cause of death in the United States. A person dies by suicide about
> > > every 16 minutes in the United States. An attempt is estimated to be
> > > made once every minute. Though people who have the highest risk of
> > > suicide are white men, women and teens report more suicide attempts.
> > > This comparison speaks volumes concerning the seriousness of suicide.
> > > Attempting suicide is just as much a problem as successful attempts.
>
> > > I've had many thoughts on suicide. Here is some rehashing. I truly
> > > hope it is not within your immediate set of contemplations but simply
> > > a melancholy drift, a dissipating cloud.
>
> > > Suicide is always the ultimate exit strategy unless someone is
> > > confined in a prison or mental institution and strict measures are
> > > taken to disallow the act. Thoughts of suicide at any age for any
> > > reason can return at any time when the ugly side of life rears it's
> > > head. If you thought about it when you were 8 you will think about it
> > > when you are 38, 58 or 88.
>
> > > To terminate one's existence is entirely based on the individual's
> > > perception of
> > > life at the time of suicidal contemplation. To be more precise, when
> > > all value in life has reached the point of nil, the life itself
> > > becomes meaningless. When no amount of wealth or enlightenment offers
> > > any degree of worth to the individual there is little desire to exist
> > > as the question arises, "what is there to live for?". Surely there
> > > are those who would offer alternative avenues to the suicidal
> > > individual but the alternatives may only hold value to those
> > > individuals offering the alternatives. Each individual lives within
> > > the self consciousness of the individual's self and so no one can
> > > transfer life values to that person. This is the dilemma that we face
> > > when trying to understand why someone would want to commit suicide as
> > > we cannot share the thought patterns of the individual prior to the
> > > suicide and can no longer query the individual in the post suicidal
> > > state. This is of course aside from heroic or religious based suicides
> > > and detailed explanations left by the individual prior to suicide.
> > > Though we all have the freedom (perhaps not the nerve) to commit
> > > suicide, most choose life instead and find value in it's most simple
> > > form.
>
> > > Truly the experience of just being alive is enough for some to
> > > view it as being the main value in living. Some view suffering as part
> > > of the living experience and therefore find no cause to terminate
> > > life. Some may insist that suicide is wrong and unjust according to
> > > various standards, however, I find that aspect to be centered upon
> > > social/religious obligations. Considering that life remains enigmatic
> > > and has yet to offer any proofs as to it's meaning or purpose, the act
> > > of suicide is solely carried out according to the individual's
> > > discretion.
>
> > > Perhaps we grasp at this life for it's mere existence and the
> > > experience of the existence, as in a blissful dream from which we do
> > > not want to leave. We know the dream is occurring in our sleep state
> > > and when we awake our mind will return to our conscious world but we
> > > still in some instances wish we didn't wake up. This excludes
> > > nightmares or disturbing dreams of course.
>
> > > The ramifications of the suicidal act, I think, are not something that
> > > the suicidal
> > > weighs heavily during the moment of truth. The suicidal at some
> > > point must eliminate all other aspects of life surrounding
> > > individuality. Concern for others might be a consideration but the
> > > ultimate focus becomes the self in the end. The suffering becomes so
> > > internalized and undetectable but never the less, it festers within
> > > until it is no longer containable. The people surrounding the
> > > individual are usually caught in a daze of shock and dismay without
> > > any clues.
>
> > > I don't always look at suicide as the failure of the suicidal as much
> > > as I see it as a failure of society to address the issues that lead to
> > > suicide and the stigma and repercussions of the act itself. We must
> > > re-examine the values of humanity before we can alleviate the problems
> > > of depression and suicide, alcohol and drug abuse. The complexities
> > > are overwhelming.
>
> > > One thing for sure is, Life is for Living!
>
> > > On Jun 20, 6:56 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > A habit of poets. A boost to book sales and theories. Women might as
> > > > well throw themselves over the cliff after 30. The world belongs to
> > > > men. Children are sandbags to a woman's dream.- Hide quoted text -
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