Son#2 was musing the day would come when I needed to give up this
house and move into a smaller abode and suggested a woman would tend
me. Why a woman, I asked and we convulsed into laughter! Goodnight and
sweet dreams to all.

On Jun 29, 11:13�pm, Tinker <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hey Babe, ya want me to bounce this guy for ya?
> (Slip, play along, Please, I need to land this job)
>
> :-)
>
> peace & Love
>
> On Jun 29, 11:09�pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Yes you do and you want to make my life worthless and insult me to
> > boot.
>
> > On Jun 29, 10:56 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I don't keep track of you, I just have a good memory and often dig up
> > > ancient posts to clarify issues in newer threads. Yours wasn't all
> > > that old and I didn't have to go back that far. I know very well why
> > > some women avoid the marital ride and why some men also prefer
> > > exclusion. Let's look at the bright side, we're not married. ;-)
>
> > > On Jun 29, 10:30 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Yes- mothers must quash themselves. It's biology and society. You
> > > > might ask why certain women have avoided marriage and motherhood
> > > > rather than keeping track of me.
> > > > On Jun 29, 10:16 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I personally don't see it as an unfortunate role. I see that some
> > > > > women see it as an unfortunate role.
>
> > > > > I've always had the feeling that you, rigsy, were never all that
> > > > > thrilled with the marital/motherhood roles. Comments you have made in
> > > > > the past like...........
>
> > > > > "The world belongs to men. Children are sandbags to a woman's dream."
>
> > > > > It is your statement that labels it the unfortunate role. I would
> > > > > say it is an unfortunate role for those who are unhappy with it. The
> > > > > sandbags as you call them got in the way of your dreams.
>
> > > > > You also stated;
> > > > > "I don't think men and women are equal. Men can move along. Women must
> > > > > be the good mother and nurture their children. Provide an example-
> > > > > blah-blah blah. It's
> > > > > biology or the lessons from lions. "
>
> > > > > This again does not sound like you are overly joyed with it. I just
> > > > > get the impression that you are somewhat disgruntled with the whole
> > > > > picture and my post is a reflection of that.
>
> > > > > I should revise my post as to indicate it's specific nature and not a
> > > > > gender generalization.
> > > > > My apology smology!
>
> > > > > On Jun 29, 9:39 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Also religious channels. What noose? Some women do not get, want,
> > > > > > accept alimony and child support. Yes- we do have choices sometimes 
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > simple as saying "no" othertimes accepting the consequences of 
> > > > > > saying
> > > > > > "yes". And some beautiful women do not choose to use that beauty as 
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > weapon or allurement- like a marketing tool. It is no small
> > > > > > accomplishment to raise children to maturity and healthy adjustment 
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > their caretaker- if that's what you see as motherhood- it's about 24
> > > > > > years per child by the time they can really fly on their own. I
> > > > > > enjoyed my motherhood years. Why do you see it as an "unfortunate
> > > > > > role"?
>
> > > > > > On Jun 29, 3:29 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > No dear woman, women use their sexuality because women are sexual
> > > > > > > creatures capable of alluring the most formidable opponent. When
> > > > > > > women realize the power of their sexuality they are not nearly 
> > > > > > > women
> > > > > > > but yet girls. It is a women's unfortunate role that leads to
> > > > > > > entrapment within a circle of the offspring caretaker, and you are
> > > > > > > right, we men can just move on, like lions we are free, like 
> > > > > > > bears we
> > > > > > > give the seed that gives the birth with which you are eternally
> > > > > > > connected to. Don't blame us for our lot in life for we, no more 
> > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > you, have choice. It is only through legal political channels 
> > > > > > > that you
> > > > > > > have put a noose on our necks. When you submit you should be well
> > > > > > > informed of the ramifications and in that sense it takes one.
>
> > > > > > > On Jun 29, 2:30 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > I have been in those situations, as well, which are sincere 
> > > > > > > > friendly
> > > > > > > > gestures but I have also seen the corrupted routine both in 
> > > > > > > > business
> > > > > > > > and social relations which are basically a form of control. 
> > > > > > > > Women use
> > > > > > > > their sexuality because the culture has fostered its rewards. 
> > > > > > > > It takes
> > > > > > > > two.
>
> > > > > > > > On Jun 29, 4:50 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > When I moved into my community the welcoming committee came 
> > > > > > > > > by to drop
> > > > > > > > > off a basket full of gifts as a way of saying hello. We took 
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > gifts and had a great time without feeling any need for
> > > > > > > > > reciprocation. I had a neighbor give me two tickets to the 
> > > > > > > > > symphony
> > > > > > > > > because he and his wife could not go on that date, they were 
> > > > > > > > > great
> > > > > > > > > seats. He never came by to ask any favors and a year later 
> > > > > > > > > they moved
> > > > > > > > > away. I give away gifts all the time and think that giving 
> > > > > > > > > begins a
> > > > > > > > > cycle of giving. Those that receive learn that giving can be 
> > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > rewarding as receiving. I can see that in the business world 
> > > > > > > > > buying
> > > > > > > > > lavish gifts for the management might be construed as a 
> > > > > > > > > request for
> > > > > > > > > special treatment and I have seen some fine women climb the 
> > > > > > > > > corporate
> > > > > > > > > ladder via their sexual prowess, if that can be considered a 
> > > > > > > > > gift.
>
> > > > > > > > > On Jun 29, 1:08 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > I wonder why may I accept a ' gift ' from someone who I do 
> > > > > > > > > > not even
> > > > > > > > > > know, to whom I myself have never offered one ( gift ) or ( 
> > > > > > > > > > left to
> > > > > > > > > > myself ) would never desire to !
>
> > > > > > > > > > " Integrity does not have to be lost upon the receipt of a 
> > > > > > > > > > gift."
>
> > > > > > > > > > Read the first para. Why else would one accept a gift ? 
> > > > > > > > > > Unless it is
> > > > > > > > > > token, read ' costing next to nothing,' say, flowers.
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Jun 29, 9:21 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Gifts are good, I like gifts, what's wrong with gifts? 
> > > > > > > > > > > Integrity does
> > > > > > > > > > > not have to be lost upon the receipt of a gift. A gift 
> > > > > > > > > > > should not be
> > > > > > > > > > > preconceived as a bribe. The corrupted have made it so 
> > > > > > > > > > > because they
> > > > > > > > > > > took gifts in exchange for favor but this does not set a 
> > > > > > > > > > > standard. We
> > > > > > > > > > > continually diminish our quality of life on the basis of 
> > > > > > > > > > > those that
> > > > > > > > > > > are unethical, why let them ruin it for the rest of us? 
> > > > > > > > > > > Give and
> > > > > > > > > > > Receive without strings!
>
> > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 10:56 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > accepting business gifts should be
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > totally unacceptable behavior, both by the giver and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the receiver. -iam
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > I agree only in the public sector. I work for the State 
> > > > > > > > > > > > so pretty
> > > > > > > > > > > > much the same thing applies to me. While people still 
> > > > > > > > > > > > accept tickets
> > > > > > > > > > > > to sporting events and lunches and cases of booze on 
> > > > > > > > > > > > the holidays and
> > > > > > > > > > > > complimentary fishing/hunting trips; it really is graft 
> > > > > > > > > > > > and shouldn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > be done. However, in the private sector this is often 
> > > > > > > > > > > > how things are
> > > > > > > > > > > > done. It's how the service provider buys access. Tax 
> > > > > > > > > > > > money isn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > used to pay for the services so I don't have a problem 
> > > > > > > > > > > > with it. If
> > > > > > > > > > > > large corporations didn't use this technique to gain 
> > > > > > > > > > > > access to foreign
> > > > > > > > > > > > potential customers we would never get their business.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > I commend your wife on her integrity. It's a rare trait.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > dj
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 8:00 AM, iam 
> > > > > > > > > > > > deheretic<[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Chomsky has my vote along with slipsky of course.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Well the Palestinian people elected one party and the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > US and Israel would
> > > > > > > > > > > > > only support the losers. Radical changes are going to 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > need to be made,, but
> > > > > > > > > > > > > There is the lingering doubt that the will is there. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I am hoping for health
> > > > > > > > > > > > > care, but as long as the politicians are exempt from 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the bribery laws it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > will never happen.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I am looking at the difference in countries. My wife 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > is the officer in
> > > > > > > > > > > > > charge of quality control for the fire department.. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and she was offered
> > > > > > > > > > > > > tickets for her and me to a polo match free. Well we 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > had to turn them down
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and make a report of it. It has to do with honesty in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > government.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > The truth is I am glad to see that there are people 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > watching and much more
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of it needs to occur, every where ,, accepting 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > business gifts should be
> > > > > > > > > > > > > totally unacceptable behavior, both by the giver and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the receiver.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Allan
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Molly Brogan 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> Here is Noam Chomsky's take on it:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >>http://books.google.com/books?id=yDhGoR6yU8AC&dq=Noam+Chomsky+anarchy...
>
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Jun 27, 4:27 pm, iam deheretic 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Collective anger is interesting . It leaves me 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > wondering who is
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > controlling
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > it. In Red Handed discussion there is tremendous 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > violence demonstrated
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > used for control. As for the people being angry. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > could they be
>
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