" I can see that in the business world buying lavish gifts for the management might be construed as a request for special treatment ... "
That's the context, Slip. The gifts you speak of are humanistic, the kind you pre - recognise as man - to - man. " ... I have seen some fine women climb the corporate ladder via their sexual prowess, if that can be considered a gift." What else is it ? Or, is it ? On Jun 29, 2:50 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > When I moved into my community the welcoming committee came by to drop > off a basket full of gifts as a way of saying hello. We took the > gifts and had a great time without feeling any need for > reciprocation. I had a neighbor give me two tickets to the symphony > because he and his wife could not go on that date, they were great > seats. He never came by to ask any favors and a year later they moved > away. I give away gifts all the time and think that giving begins a > cycle of giving. Those that receive learn that giving can be as > rewarding as receiving. I can see that in the business world buying > lavish gifts for the management might be construed as a request for > special treatment and I have seen some fine women climb the corporate > ladder via their sexual prowess, if that can be considered a gift. > > On Jun 29, 1:08 am, Vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I wonder why may I accept a ' gift ' from someone who I do not even > > know, to whom I myself have never offered one ( gift ) or ( left to > > myself ) would never desire to ! > > > " Integrity does not have to be lost upon the receipt of a gift." > > > Read the first para. Why else would one accept a gift ? Unless it is > > token, read ' costing next to nothing,' say, flowers. > > > On Jun 29, 9:21 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Gifts are good, I like gifts, what's wrong with gifts? Integrity does > > > not have to be lost upon the receipt of a gift. A gift should not be > > > preconceived as a bribe. The corrupted have made it so because they > > > took gifts in exchange for favor but this does not set a standard. We > > > continually diminish our quality of life on the basis of those that > > > are unethical, why let them ruin it for the rest of us? Give and > > > Receive without strings! > > > > On Jun 28, 10:56 pm, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > accepting business gifts should be > > > > > > totally unacceptable behavior, both by the giver and the receiver. > > > > > -iam > > > > > I agree only in the public sector. I work for the State so pretty > > > > much the same thing applies to me. While people still accept tickets > > > > to sporting events and lunches and cases of booze on the holidays and > > > > complimentary fishing/hunting trips; it really is graft and shouldn't > > > > be done. However, in the private sector this is often how things are > > > > done. It's how the service provider buys access. Tax money isn't > > > > used to pay for the services so I don't have a problem with it. If > > > > large corporations didn't use this technique to gain access to foreign > > > > potential customers we would never get their business. > > > > > I commend your wife on her integrity. It's a rare trait. > > > > > dj > > > > > On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 8:00 AM, iam deheretic<[email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Chomsky has my vote along with slipsky of course. > > > > > > Well the Palestinian people elected one party and the US and Israel > > > > > would > > > > > only support the losers. Radical changes are going to need to be > > > > > made,, but > > > > > There is the lingering doubt that the will is there. I am hoping for > > > > > health > > > > > care, but as long as the politicians are exempt from the bribery > > > > > laws it > > > > > will never happen. > > > > > > I am looking at the difference in countries. My wife is the officer > > > > > in > > > > > charge of quality control for the fire department.. and she was > > > > > offered > > > > > tickets for her and me to a polo match free. Well we had to turn them > > > > > down > > > > > and make a report of it. It has to do with honesty in government. > > > > > > The truth is I am glad to see that there are people watching and much > > > > > more > > > > > of it needs to occur, every where ,, accepting business gifts should > > > > > be > > > > > totally unacceptable behavior, both by the giver and the receiver. > > > > > Allan > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 10:57 PM, Molly Brogan <[email protected]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> Here is Noam Chomsky's take on it: > > > > > >>http://books.google.com/books?id=yDhGoR6yU8AC&dq=Noam+Chomsky+anarchy... > > > > > >> On Jun 27, 4:27 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > >> > Collective anger is interesting . It leaves me wondering who is > > > > >> > controlling > > > > >> > it. In Red Handed discussion there is tremendous violence > > > > >> > demonstrated > > > > >> > and > > > > >> > used for control. As for the people being angry. could they be > > > > >> > frustrated, > > > > >> > with supposed religious leadership using violence and fear to > > > > >> > control, > > > > >> > it > > > > >> > would seem to be more frustration than anger. > > > > > >> > To me it seems in the majority of people have a deep seated need to > > > > >> > believe > > > > >> > in something greater than them selves. looking at Iran, I can not > > > > >> > help > > > > >> > but > > > > >> > wonder what is really going on. > > > > >> > Allan > > > > > >> > On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 4:42 PM, Molly Brogan > > > > >> > <[email protected]> > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > > >> > > This is a very nice examination of the emotion contained in the > > > > >> > > anarchy that ensues as a result of suppression, Vam. It is > > > > >> > > fascinating (and horrifying) to watch the collective expression > > > > >> > > of > > > > >> > > anger in anarchy. > > > > > >> > > I think that anger, and its primary emotion fear, are ego based > > > > >> > > emotions. If we are witnessing ourselves expressing less and > > > > >> > > less > > > > >> > > anger, it is probably because we are not primarily centered in > > > > >> > > our > > > > >> > > ego. Ego based desire - what I want - and its frustration is > > > > >> > > often > > > > >> > > the cause, and if expressed without consideration of others, can > > > > >> > > be > > > > >> > > destructive. Ego based anger can also be expressed in > > > > >> > > consideration > > > > >> > > of others, and the outcome is usually more palatable for all > > > > >> > > involved. > > > > > >> > > If our view looks beyond our ego, includes the broader > > > > >> > > perspectives of > > > > >> > > self as other and absolute truth in spirit, the integrated > > > > >> > > expression > > > > >> > > of anger simply becomes I am not and I am. Here is where anger of > > > > >> > > others becomes a mirror to shadow self, and anger arising in > > > > >> > > self can > > > > >> > > be witnessed in patterns that have a more soulful revelation of > > > > >> > > who I > > > > >> > > am. > > > > > >> > > Beyond that, there is only love and I am. > > > > > > -- > > > > > ( > > > > > ) > > > > > I_D Allan- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/Minds-Eye?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
