*laughing*

I'm used to disappointing you, Gabby. It just gives me something to
eternally strive for. ;)

On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 12:12 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Do you really still need pretexts to not give up smoking? You
> disappoint me, Chris.
>
> On 27 Aug., 17:12, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> > From here:
> http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/08/24/what-we-are-not-emb...
>  >
> > "
> >
> > Here is a good debate proposition: It ought to be less embarrassing to
> have
> > been influenced by Ayn Rand than by Karl Marx.
> >
> > The most powerful way to argue the affirmative is to compare the number
> of
> > human beings murdered by the devotees of each. That line of attack ought
> to
> > be decisive, but I’m afraid it won’t get you far with the multitude of
> > highly-self-regarded thinkers influenced by Karl Marx. Fact is,
> commitment
> > to some kind of socialism and fluency in the jargon of Marxism used to be
> > mandatory for serious intellectuals. And there’s something glamorous in
> the
> > very idea of the intellectual. Even for those of us who came of age after
> > 1989, Marxism, like cigarettes, remains linked by association to the idea
> of
> > the intellectual, and so, like cigarettes, shares in the intellectual’s
> > glamour. I don’t know if cigarettes or Marxism have killed more people,
> but
> > it’s pretty clear cigarettes are more actively stigmatized. Marxists,
> > neo-Marxists, crypto-Marxists, post-Marxists, etc. have an enduring
> > influence on intellectual fashion. So it is not only possible proudly to
> > confess Marx’s influence on one’s thought, but it remains possible in
> some
> > quarters to impress by doing so. It ought to be embarrassing, but it
> isn’t.
> > Being a bit of a Marxist is like having a closet full of pirate blouses
> but
> > never having to worry."
> >
> > This gave me pause for consideration. Rand's philosophies have been much
> > maligned as "uncompassionate", while certain "socialist" (Marxist
> Communist)
> > policies have been held up as an ideal, and yet, how many people have
> been
> > killed in the name of Randian philosophy, and how many have been killed
> in
> > the name of Marxist philosophy?
> >
> > What do YOU think? ;)
>  >
>

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