very funny
On Aug 27, 12:41 pm, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote:
> I like the following definition from the Philosophical Lexicon:
>
> rand, n. An angry tirade occasioned by mistaking philosophical
> disagreement for a personal attack and/or evidence of unspeakable
> moral corruption. "When I questioned his second premise, he flew into
> a rand." Also, to attack or stigmatise through a rand. "When I
> defended socialised medicine, I was randed as a
> communist."http://www.philosophicallexicon.com/#R
>
> (I also like their definition of the verb, "to quine": quine, v. (1)
> To deny resolutely the existence or importance of something real or
> significant. "Some philosophers have quined classes, and some have
> even quined physical objects." Occasionally used intr., e.g., "You
> think I quine, sir. I assure you I do not!" (2) n. The total aggregate
> sensory surface of the world; hence quinitis, irritation of the
> quine.)
>
> Francis
>
> On 27 Aug., 17:12, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > From
> > here:http://www.willwilkinson.net/flybottle/2009/08/24/what-we-are-not-emb...
>
> > "
>
> > Here is a good debate proposition: It ought to be less embarrassing to have
> > been influenced by Ayn Rand than by Karl Marx.
>
> > The most powerful way to argue the affirmative is to compare the number of
> > human beings murdered by the devotees of each. That line of attack ought to
> > be decisive, but I’m afraid it won’t get you far with the multitude of
> > highly-self-regarded thinkers influenced by Karl Marx. Fact is, commitment
> > to some kind of socialism and fluency in the jargon of Marxism used to be
> > mandatory for serious intellectuals. And there’s something glamorous in the
> > very idea of the intellectual. Even for those of us who came of age after
> > 1989, Marxism, like cigarettes, remains linked by association to the idea of
> > the intellectual, and so, like cigarettes, shares in the intellectual’s
> > glamour. I don’t know if cigarettes or Marxism have killed more people, but
> > it’s pretty clear cigarettes are more actively stigmatized. Marxists,
> > neo-Marxists, crypto-Marxists, post-Marxists, etc. have an enduring
> > influence on intellectual fashion. So it is not only possible proudly to
> > confess Marx’s influence on one’s thought, but it remains possible in some
> > quarters to impress by doing so. It ought to be embarrassing, but it isn’t.
> > Being a bit of a Marxist is like having a closet full of pirate blouses but
> > never having to worry."
>
> > This gave me pause for consideration. Rand's philosophies have been much
> > maligned as "uncompassionate", while certain "socialist" (Marxist Communist)
> > policies have been held up as an ideal, and yet, how many people have been
> > killed in the name of Randian philosophy, and how many have been killed in
> > the name of Marxist philosophy?
>
> > What do YOU think? ;)- Hide quoted text -
>
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