I've seen some very liberal Islamic scholarship and some great
hospitality; but also this kind of stuff.  Can't have been much of a
dog if he only traded 15 females for its death.  I mean a good trade
in wife swapping is a new set of golf clubs.  Scum in this country
practise some dreadful 'swaps', including their kids for sex-drugs
exchanges.  The trading of women has been common between many
cultures.  I think it must have been a long playing shaggy dog story.
This gene mixing seems to run in some animal cultures too and prevents
warring.  Pathetic by our standards (including the feeble golf club
joke), but we should remember we should be insisting on those
standards.  This is where 'tolerance' falls flat on its face.  It
can't be right to tolerate shit against humans we would report to
police here if done against animals.  The violence in these relations
can also be found in Western domestic violence.  The PC line against
the Swiss is fundamentally anti-democratic, claiming somehow that
democracies must protect minorities and hence their referendums are
wrong.  This is trite dross.  A bunch of well-off, not suffering the
problems, 'let them eat cakers' is preventing us having our say.  I'd
like a vote on banning the middle ages from the present.

On 3 Dec, 23:18, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote:
> Sounds to me like you're getting lost in translation, Gabs. I'm not zapping
> between any "versions", and as is so often the case, have no idea what you
> mean.
>
> On Dec 3, 2009 5:59 PM, "gabbydott" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Francis did not cover the topic, that's right Chris. He is living and
> dealing with this topic. But keep on zapping between the versions that
> please you most, my cowboy friend.
>
> On 3 Dez., 18:32, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > Wafa
> Sultan covers this topic...
>
>
>
>
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> > religions, who think otherwise.
>
>  <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > >anci3 Dez., 00:06, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >tt gh, [email protected] Irish-catholic background you havour rphed
> > > > into such a Gutmensch that it is almost unbearable. >
> > > Sticks and slmost unb break my bones ...
> > > > More seriously, though, Gabby, I started this post because I really am
> > > NOT clear about how...
> > > what is officially called "a migrant background"icially ct they were
> > > all Muslims, since "ethnic" Germans with a Russian backround, for
> > > example, are also included in this category). I h also inc contact
> > > with Muslim women swathed in cloth and young Turkish males, whose > >
>
> testosterone-fuelled, inse...
>
> > > frequenhard to takeeal with their denigrating machismo misogeny and
> > > consequently has more to put up with than me. I have beere to punted
> > > with comments that our society is decadent and immoral and, given > >
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> their higher birth-rates, ...
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> > > a general problem with religions which baneral mselves on "Holy
> > > Scriptures"; you can find a Bible chapter and verse or a Qur'an sura > >
>
> and ayat to support any...
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> > > anti-inteIslam aroze, anti-ratto
> >lism around seven hundred years ago > > with the general acceptance of the
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> primacy of al-Ghazali's ...
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> > > bettyr(in many ortured, conflct-ridden history, at least never
> > > completely rejected reason, leading, ultimately to the Enlightn, lead
> > > and Scientific Revolution. > > > And yet ... >
>
> aret prohibition strikes me as ... well ... petty. It > > also seems to me
> to be an expression of a ...
>
> > > mindedness with more intolerance and more narrow-mindedndedness wits
> > > sense, it seems to somehow express an insecurity about our own values, >
> > an uncertainty about ...
> > > "good citizenship"? Do we need them? How is an open society to zenship"?
> > > with its enemies?
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> > > Francis
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