The middle ages is a relative term. I often think the lack of this experience on a personal level makes it particularly difficult for Americans to comprehend. It is my middle aged computer that blindly and kindly parrots snippets of past quotations - no need to rock that horse.
On 4 Dez., 01:44, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > I vote aye. > > On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 7:40 PM, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > I've seen some very liberal Islamic scholarship and some great > > hospitality; but also this kind of stuff. Can't have been much of a > > dog if he only traded 15 females for its death. I mean a good trade > > in wife swapping is a new set of golf clubs. Scum in this country > > practise some dreadful 'swaps', including their kids for sex-drugs > > exchanges. The trading of women has been common between many > > cultures. I think it must have been a long playing shaggy dog story. > > This gene mixing seems to run in some animal cultures too and prevents > > warring. Pathetic by our standards (including the feeble golf club > > joke), but we should remember we should be insisting on those > > standards. This is where 'tolerance' falls flat on its face. It > > can't be right to tolerate shit against humans we would report to > > police here if done against animals. The violence in these relations > > can also be found in Western domestic violence. The PC line against > > the Swiss is fundamentally anti-democratic, claiming somehow that > > democracies must protect minorities and hence their referendums are > > wrong. This is trite dross. A bunch of well-off, not suffering the > > problems, 'let them eat cakers' is preventing us having our say. I'd > > like a vote on banning the middle ages from the present. > > > On 3 Dec, 23:18, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Sounds to me like you're getting lost in translation, Gabs. I'm not > > zapping > > > between any "versions", and as is so often the case, have no idea what > > you > > > mean. > > > > On Dec 3, 2009 5:59 PM, "gabbydott" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Francis did not cover the topic, that's right Chris. He is living and > > > dealing with this topic. But keep on zapping between the versions that > > > please you most, my cowboy friend. > > > > On 3 Dez., 18:32, Chris Jenkins <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Wafa > > > Sultan covers this topic... > > > > > religions, who think otherwise. > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >anci3 Dez., 00:06, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >tt gh, [email protected] Irish-catholic background you havour > > rphed > > > > > > into such a Gutmensch that it is almost unbearable. > > > > > > Sticks and slmost unb break my bones ... > > > > > > More seriously, though, Gabby, I started this post because I really > > am > > > > > NOT clear about how... > > > > > what is officially called "a migrant background"icially ct they were > > > > > all Muslims, since "ethnic" Germans with a Russian backround, for > > > > > example, are also included in this category). I h also inc contact > > > > > with Muslim women swathed in cloth and young Turkish males, whose > > > > > > testosterone-fuelled, inse... > > > > > > frequenhard to takeeal with their denigrating machismo misogeny and > > > > > consequently has more to put up with than me. I have beere to punted > > > > > with comments that our society is decadent and immoral and, given > > > > > > their higher birth-rates, ... > > > > > > a general problem with religions which baneral mselves on "Holy > > > > > Scriptures"; you can find a Bible chapter and verse or a Qur'an sura > > > > and ayat to support any... > > > > > > anti-inteIslam aroze, anti-ratto > > > >lism around seven hundred years ago > > with the general acceptance of > > the > > > > primacy of al-Ghazali's ... > > > > > > bettyr(in many ortured, conflct-ridden history, at least never > > > > > completely rejected reason, leading, ultimately to the Enlightn, lead > > > > > and Scientific Revolution. > > > And yet ... > > > > > aret prohibition strikes me as ... well ... petty. It > > also seems to > > me > > > to be an expression of a ... > > > > > > mindedness with more intolerance and more narrow-mindedndedness wits > > > > > sense, it seems to somehow express an insecurity about our own > > values, > > > > > an uncertainty about ... > > > > > "good citizenship"? Do we need them? How is an open society to > > zenship"? > > > > > with its enemies? > > > > > > Francis > > > > > > -- > > > > cause you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > > > To post to this group, ...> > > > > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > > <minds-eye%2bunsubscr...@googlegroups .com> > > > > <minds-eye%[email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > > <minds-eye%252bunsubscr...@googleg roups.com> > > > > > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. ... > > > -- > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > ""Minds Eye"" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected]<minds-eye%[email protected]> > > . > > For more options, visit this group at > >http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. 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