We call them do-gooders Don, though I did briefly think of a bunch of
poor souls Gabby took the knife to.  Genocide is usually all right if
your team wins - a bit like handball in soccer perhaps?  I'd be OK
with the Minarets if we just had all our kids go to the same schools.

On 3 Dec, 01:54, Don Johnson <[email protected]> wrote:
> What, pray tell, is a Gutmensch?  Paranoid?  Sounds vaguely Yiddish...
>
> dj
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 5:06 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Argh, Francis, with your Irish-catholic background you have morphed
> > into such a Gutmensch that it is almost unbearable.
>
> > On 2 Dez., 23:28, fran the man <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> On 2 Dez., 17:58, Ian Pollard <[email protected]> wrote:> Fantastic 
> >> news and, despite what you say, very progressive! :)
>
> >> Er, Ian, I don't believe I personally put forward any opinion as to
> >> the progressive, or otherwise nature of the decision of the Swiss
> >> people in my original post. I simply formulated some of the questions
> >> which are being publicly discussed in Europe following the referendum.
>
> >> Formally, the Swiss simply decided to forbid the building of minarets
> >> in their country. No more, no less. Symbolically, of course, writing
> >> this prohibition into Swiss law means much more - indeed, many
> >> different things to different people. Personally, I would incline to
> >> the view that what can and cannot be built is more a matter for local
> >> authorities and their procedures for granting planning permission. A
> >> well-designed mosque with minaret may well improve certain urban
> >> landscapes from an architectural/aesthetic perspective, just as many
> >> badly designed and situated Christian churches are simply ugly and
> >> just don't fit in where they are.
>
> >> The much deeper question of Islam and the relationship between it, as
> >> a religious-cultural-political Weltanschauung and western societies
> >> and the values they (we) see as being basic to their (our) self-
> >> understanding is complex and multi-facetted. My hope is that this
> >> thread may take up some of these issues.
>
> >> Francis
>
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