On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:28 AM, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > http://www.hslda.org/laws/default.asp > > http://www.hslda.org/legislation/state/default.asp > > http://www.hslda.org/orgs/default.asp > > Many Public Schools have been turning out idiots, kids that can't read > or read at a poor level. Kids can enhance their socialization skills > in extra curricular activities, sports events and other social > functions. Home schooled children are not isolated prisoners confined > to parental control.
I concur. That said, not all home schooling programs are created alike. What's available should be studied with as much care as one would when applying to a private school. The best are co-ops that use parents and/or private instructors teaching what they are qualified to teach. I would have no problem with someone like Chris or Orn or Arch donating a couple of hours a week to teach my kid something they know a great deal about. In return I could teach their kids how to play guitar or watch tv(I'm a grandmaster) This, in effect, is what homeschooling is all about. That and an attempt to isolate the kids from secular teachings. Yeah, there is that. I have no objection to it and if the alternative is an inner city school or ridiculously priced private academies I whole heartily support it. They do miss out on the sports side, however. Many of these kids take martial arts but that ain't football. Nor cricket either. dj > > On Feb 1, 9:52 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: >> “…Any thoughts?” – fran >> >> Yes fran…I have a few although don’t claim lucidity for this topic. >> First, my gut as the US started to fully embrace what euphemistically >> is called ‘home schooling’ said that it was a mistake. In other >> words, without much analysis, my intuition is against it. There are a >> few thoughts wafting across my mind that says parents should >> absolutely have the right to organize and deliver the education for >> their own children especially when there is concern about the bias >> being imposed by a governmentally run educational system. Yet, should >> such parents have some sort of standardized education and teaching >> ability themselves? It would seem appropriate too. Yet, if so, who >> would make such a determination…the same government they fear for >> whatever reason? In the specific case, being prejudiced against >> fundamentalism in general and most manifestations of Christianity in >> particular, I believe that the children are being abused in that they >> will be handed beliefs in a sort of nepotism …just reinforcing >> whatever blind beliefs and/or ignorance the specific family has. >> Whereas, in a public educational environment, since most that I am >> familiar with are influenced by all aspects of society from the PTA to >> governmental directives, resulting in a more homogeneous and well >> rounded set of instructions. Of course, in most cases, I would guess >> that there will be little instruction in how to think or use logic so >> what we are talking about in general is training, right? So, what sort >> of information and abilities should be imparted? I’m sure many have >> their own views. I’m not sure about it myself. As a kid, it all seemed >> natural …the topics were well rounded and included everything from the >> arts and civics to local, state, country and world history to >> languages and maths and…well…mostly standard stuff. Although these >> days in the US, as I understand it, there is precious little imparted >> about civics let alone about music, art and dance. Even physical >> education seems to be declining …perhaps. In all cases, for a societal >> input and support for the general good when it comes to education, >> funding is needed. Today, too many of the rich wish to keep their >> money for personal usage rather than for the common good…as I see it. >> Whew!...guess my soap box came out…I’ll take a breath. >> >> Overall, in my youth, there were both public schools and religious >> schools. Parents had a choice between them and apparently didn’t need >> to home school. I do understand that for a long time there have been >> people who assign a higher value to what they see as god’s law, >> adoration and instruction than is assigned to that of the state. >> Somehow, I don’t remember this being a problem for the first few >> decades of my life…all seemed to go along fairly well. Somehow, by no >> accident I’s posit, there has been an increase in religious influence >> when it comes to what used to be nonsectarian issues, education >> included. Of course, I just may have been ignorant. >> >> Overall, in Germany and the US…I’d personally prefer kids to receive a >> good, well rounded and well funded education and do away with home >> schooling. My guess is that if this were done in even more >> fundamentalist and religious societies/countries, there would be a >> little less polarization…not sure, just a guess again. >> >> Of course, we haven’t discussed other options…and I’m sure there are >> ME members with ‘em….Neil comes to mind. Personally, I’d add a little >> of the Socratic method to education…more even than testing covers. >> >> Well, this is most likely worth what you pay for it!....you asked…I >> answered. >> >> On Feb 1, 9:52 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > A German family has been given political asylum in the US because of >> > their refusal to send their children to school in Germany and the >> > subsequent, according to the US judge granting the application, "well >> > founded fear of persecution." >> >> > http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,674492,00.html >> >> > Germany does not allow home schooling. The article in "der Spiegel" >> > explains: "Mandatory school attendance is based on "the idea that >> > group learning in school also helps develop social skills," says >> > Martina Elschenbroich, an expert on education law with the Culture >> > Minister Conference, an assembly that brings together education >> > ministers from Germany's 16 states. Children learn how to interact >> > with people who hold different views, which serves as the basis of a >> > democratic society, says Elschenbroich." The German position has been >> > upheld by the European Court of Human Rights in 2006. >> >> > I am aware that the radical libertarian tradition in the US (and the >> > impossibility of mandatory school attendance for many chidren in the >> > legendary frontier days of the 19th. Century) gives home-schooling a >> > certain cachet. On the other hand, it seems to me that it harbours >> > great dangers in giving all kinds of - sorry to be so blunt - nuts the >> > chance to indocrinate their children with rubbish. >> >> > Any thoughts? >> >> > Francis > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > ""Minds Eye"" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
