wow, just look at those voting selections! An anti-human rights organisation affiliated with religious home schoolers? Say it ain't so!
On Feb 2, 1:28 am, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote: > http://www.hslda.org/laws/default.asp > > http://www.hslda.org/legislation/state/default.asp > > http://www.hslda.org/orgs/default.asp > > Many Public Schools have been turning out idiots, kids that can't read > or read at a poor level. Kids can enhance their socialization skills > in extra curricular activities, sports events and other social > functions. Home schooled children are not isolated prisoners confined > to parental control. > > On Feb 1, 9:52 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > “…Any thoughts?” – fran > > > Yes fran…I have a few although don’t claim lucidity for this topic. > > First, my gut as the US started to fully embrace what euphemistically > > is called ‘home schooling’ said that it was a mistake. In other > > words, without much analysis, my intuition is against it. There are a > > few thoughts wafting across my mind that says parents should > > absolutely have the right to organize and deliver the education for > > their own children especially when there is concern about the bias > > being imposed by a governmentally run educational system. Yet, should > > such parents have some sort of standardized education and teaching > > ability themselves? It would seem appropriate too. Yet, if so, who > > would make such a determination…the same government they fear for > > whatever reason? In the specific case, being prejudiced against > > fundamentalism in general and most manifestations of Christianity in > > particular, I believe that the children are being abused in that they > > will be handed beliefs in a sort of nepotism …just reinforcing > > whatever blind beliefs and/or ignorance the specific family has. > > Whereas, in a public educational environment, since most that I am > > familiar with are influenced by all aspects of society from the PTA to > > governmental directives, resulting in a more homogeneous and well > > rounded set of instructions. Of course, in most cases, I would guess > > that there will be little instruction in how to think or use logic so > > what we are talking about in general is training, right? So, what sort > > of information and abilities should be imparted? I’m sure many have > > their own views. I’m not sure about it myself. As a kid, it all seemed > > natural …the topics were well rounded and included everything from the > > arts and civics to local, state, country and world history to > > languages and maths and…well…mostly standard stuff. Although these > > days in the US, as I understand it, there is precious little imparted > > about civics let alone about music, art and dance. Even physical > > education seems to be declining …perhaps. In all cases, for a societal > > input and support for the general good when it comes to education, > > funding is needed. Today, too many of the rich wish to keep their > > money for personal usage rather than for the common good…as I see it. > > Whew!...guess my soap box came out…I’ll take a breath. > > > Overall, in my youth, there were both public schools and religious > > schools. Parents had a choice between them and apparently didn’t need > > to home school. I do understand that for a long time there have been > > people who assign a higher value to what they see as god’s law, > > adoration and instruction than is assigned to that of the state. > > Somehow, I don’t remember this being a problem for the first few > > decades of my life…all seemed to go along fairly well. Somehow, by no > > accident I’s posit, there has been an increase in religious influence > > when it comes to what used to be nonsectarian issues, education > > included. Of course, I just may have been ignorant. > > > Overall, in Germany and the US…I’d personally prefer kids to receive a > > good, well rounded and well funded education and do away with home > > schooling. My guess is that if this were done in even more > > fundamentalist and religious societies/countries, there would be a > > little less polarization…not sure, just a guess again. > > > Of course, we haven’t discussed other options…and I’m sure there are > > ME members with ‘em….Neil comes to mind. Personally, I’d add a little > > of the Socratic method to education…more even than testing covers. > > > Well, this is most likely worth what you pay for it!....you asked…I > > answered. > > > On Feb 1, 9:52 am, frantheman <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > A German family has been given political asylum in the US because of > > > their refusal to send their children to school in Germany and the > > > subsequent, according to the US judge granting the application, "well > > > founded fear of persecution." > > > > http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/0,1518,674492,00.html > > > > Germany does not allow home schooling. The article in "der Spiegel" > > > explains: "Mandatory school attendance is based on "the idea that > > > group learning in school also helps develop social skills," says > > > Martina Elschenbroich, an expert on education law with the Culture > > > Minister Conference, an assembly that brings together education > > > ministers from Germany's 16 states. Children learn how to interact > > > with people who hold different views, which serves as the basis of a > > > democratic society, says Elschenbroich." The German position has been > > > upheld by the European Court of Human Rights in 2006. > > > > I am aware that the radical libertarian tradition in the US (and the > > > impossibility of mandatory school attendance for many chidren in the > > > legendary frontier days of the 19th. Century) gives home-schooling a > > > certain cachet. On the other hand, it seems to me that it harbours > > > great dangers in giving all kinds of - sorry to be so blunt - nuts the > > > chance to indocrinate their children with rubbish. > > > > Any thoughts? > > > > Francis -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. 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