"Nietzche was the one who did the job for me. At a certain moment in his life, the idea came to him of what he called "the love of your fate." Whatever your fate is, whatever the hell happens, you say, "This is what I need." It may look like a wreck, but go at it as though it were an opportunity, a challenge. If you bring love to that moment — not discouragement — you will find the strength is there. Any disaster you can survive is an improvement in your character, your stature, and your life. What a privilege! This is when the spontaneity of your own nature will have a chance to flow.
Then when looking back at your life, you will see that the moments which seemed to be great failures followed by wreckage were the incidents that shaped the life you have now. You'll see that this is really true. Nothing can happen to you that is not positive. Even though it looks and feels at the moment like a negative crisis, it is not. The crisis throws you back, and when you are required to exhibit strength, it comes." - Joseph Campbell On Mar 13, 12:51 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > I have no small amount of blame.. in dealing with a problem she had,, in > teaching her to deal with it it created a monster,, Time had a way of > dealing with mistakes.. I was not wrong in what i did.. because it saved > her life.. there are some awful strange realms.. > Allan > > > > On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > our perceptions can really skew our view of reality to fill > > psychological need, and when we can step back and observe them, take > > responsibility for them, change them...we begin the good hard look at > > ourselves required of self honesty. > > > On Mar 13, 3:36 am, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > > I looked at that up. they must have done a study on my ex wife... lol to > > > the T in a big way. > > > Allan > > > > On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 4:07 PM, Pat <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > On 9 Mar, 13:40, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I know quite a few people that create their own psychodramas for the > > > > > rush of having them and can't seem to take a step back and look at > > > > > their own role in creating the problems. > > > > > Perhaps they suffer from a lesser form of Munchausen Syndrome, the > > > > idea being to draw attention to themselves so that others will care > > > > for them, as it would appear that they, themselves, don't (or can't > > > > bring themselves to) care enough about themselves to do as you say. > > > > > >I did not mean to suggest > > > > > that we deny the worst we might do with manners. From my view, the > > > > > worst and the best of us must be faced and owned full on and if there > > > > > are problems in this, it is likely due to our own fear. > > Interestingly > > > > > enough, only be facing our fears with complete honesty of who we are, > > > > > will the fears fade away. Nothing anyone else can do will quell this > > > > > for us. If we perceive problems that can't be solved, we don't have > > > > > all the information or are afraid to find it. At some point, it is > > > > > what it is without denial. > > > > > > If we give credence to our critics, we also give credence to > > > > > accomplishments. At some point, the only way to be honest with > > > > > ourselves is to let both go, and act with integrity according to the > > > > > dictates of the moment. We can always do this, and it will resolve > > > > > any problem. Until we create more by constantly looking for them. > > > > > > On Mar 9, 12:28 am, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Could not agree more Molly. Our manners have some purpose in > > denying > > > > > > the worst we might do, but they leave us with unresolved problems > > and > > > > > > not much means to resolve them. > > > > > > > On 8 Mar, 18:48, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > having fun with your fantasies > > > > > > > > On Mar 8, 12:07 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > *whistling* no, I am not posting certain secret emails sent to > > me, > > > > no, > > > > > > > > I am a good girl *whistling* > > > > > > > > > On 8 Mrz., 15:06, Molly <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Yes! I think that letting go of anger is important, this we > > can > > > > do > > > > > > > > > without expressing it as the source of anger is usually our > > own > > > > view. > > > > > > > > > If we are feeling judgmental, the need to diminish or right > > the > > > > wrongs > > > > > > > > > of the world, it is our own view creating the anger, as it is > > > > placing > > > > > > > > > us in conflict with our experience. > > > > > > > > > > Yet anger is a very real human emotion, and comes to the > > > > forefront of > > > > > > > > > our experience as a means for us to confront our fears. this > > is > > > > very > > > > > > > > > different than the ill tempered person who tends to go off > > > > regularly. > > > > > > > > > this is the exquisite moment where we are face to face with > > our > > > > > > > > > deepest fears (and we may or may not recognize it) and we are > > > > given an > > > > > > > > > opportunity to take our stand (this often brings up the > > warrior > > > > in us) > > > > > > > > > and feel the I AM of a statement that reconciles injustice > > and > > > > > > > > > justice, hate and love and whatever opposition we are facing. > > > > This > > > > > > > > > feeling of anger gives rise to courage and ethical action. > > And > > > > if we > > > > > > > > > are unable to reconcile the opposites and find love and > > > > forgiveness > > > > > > > > > when the anger subsides, we will probably be faced with this > > > > essential > > > > > > > > > experience again, given another invitation to face and > > extinguish > > > > this > > > > > > > > > fear, and it may be louder and more critical each time it > > comes > > > > to > > > > > > > > > call. > > > > > > > > > > Yes, I hear you Neil. Anger can be essential. Most often, I > > > > think, > > > > > > > > > it is misused. > > > > > > > > > > On Mar 7, 7:31 pm, archytas <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I think there is an honest place where we may do something > > > > useful with > > > > > > > > > > anger Molly. > > > > > > > > > > > On 5 Mar, 17:13, Doris Briscoe <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes if your family and your love ones are not doing well > > it > > > > is hard to shine > > > > > > > > > > > your light, but if you can laugh and your love ones and > > keep > > > > and hold still > > > > > > > > > > > a joy and find still there is good things,(You are still > > > alive)....depression,poverty,hunger,coldness,homeless,family > > > > spread apart > > > > > > > > > > > and seprated, ill health,mock,not believed, rejected. > > And > > > > yet the song goes > > > > > > > > > > > on. dj and if even then you still give what you can. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 11:02 AM, Doris Briscoe < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I almost forgot about this song. It is not good to > > stand on > > > > a planet > > > > > > > > > > > > along. I like it that a person can start All over. dj > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 8:33 AM, rigsy03 < > > [email protected]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >> A beautiful and brave post- thank you, Francis. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> It is interesting to think of my mother and her peers > > who > > > > were so > > > > > > > > > > > >> tight-lipped about this subject and "airing the family > > > > dirty linens"- > > > > > > > > > > > >> she went shopping and shopping and shopping! They > > > > eventually paid for > > > > > > > > > > > >> their repression with ill-health. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> The sacrament of Confession wasn't such a bad idea to > > > > unload ones sins > > > > > > > > > > > >> and begin anew. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I have dabbled only to find the sentence(s) that > > propelled > > > > action or > > > > > > > > > > > >> change. I dislike any rx and alcohol took a dislike to > > me. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Modern life has enough leisure to allow us the > > luxury/hell > > > > of self- > > > > > > > > > > > >> analysis. I think we live in a self-help glut of books > > and > > > > experts. > > > > > > > > > > > >> Advice is cheap. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Mar 3, 12:11 pm, frantheman < > > > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> > Starting with Lehrer's article and going on with > > some > > > > excellent > > > > > > > > > > > >> > thoughtful contributions here, this thread has the > > > > potential to become > > > > > > > > > > > >> > something very good. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > I believe that a danger in dealing with the subject > > of > > > > "depression" is > > > > > > > > > > > >> > that there are many different modes of melancholy, > > many > > > > different > > > > > > > > > > > >> > causes and, consequently. many different ways of > > > > treating/dealing with/ > > > > > > > > > > > >> > living with/learning from/transcending it. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > There's evidence for neuro-biochemical foundations > > for > > > > particular > > > > > > > > > > > >> > depressive states, having generally (much simplified > > > > here!) to do with > > > > > > > > > > > >> > the neurotransmitter serotonin. This is the level at > > > > which many of the > > > > > > > > > > > >> > current pharmaceutical "treatments" kick in. The > > > > question which can > > > > > > > > > > > >> > often be asked is whether a chemical club > > ameliorates a > > > > particular > > > > > > > > > > > >> > symptomatic which is actually a signal for something > > > > else. In a > > > > > > > > > > > >> > society which believes in quick fixes, the immediate > > > > recourse to pills > > > > > > > > > > > >> > is prevelant and, I suspect, frequently > > shortsighted. > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > That said, I know that chronic, deep depression is > > > > something awful and > > > > > > > > > > > >> > - ultimately - pathological. In such cases, > > medication > > > > may be > > > > > > > > > > > >> > absolutely necessary. The inability to have any > > > > experience of joy in > > > > > > > > > > > >> > life over a longer period is for me the best > > definition > > > > of hell I can > > > > > > > > > > > >> > come up with (and I don't need any supernatural > > > > categories for it). To > > > > > > > > > > > >> > experience one's life as continuously completely > > dreary > > > > and futile, to > > > > > > > > > > > >> > feel that the effort of just getting out of bed at > > some > > > > stage of the > > > > > > > > > > > >> > day takes more energy than one has available, to see > > > > one's own > > > > > > > > > > > >> > existence as a uselessly complicating factor for > > others > > > > so that the > > > > > > > > > > > >> > whole world would be better if one simply ceased to > > > > exist ... I've > > > > > > > > > > > >> > been there. I never want to go back there. I've > > known > > > > many others who > > > > > > > > > > > >> > have suffered terribly, and one of my best friends > > > > killed himself > > > > > > > > > > > >> > because - after many years, and all sorts of > > treatments > > > > and therapies > > > > > > > > > > > >> > - he just couldn't stand it any more. > > ... > > read more » -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups ""Minds Eye"" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/minds-eye?hl=en.
