On 4/19/2010 7:19 AM, rigsy03 wrote:
One can ascertain the future-somewhat- based on probability but as the
human species is prone to habit and delusion, it rarely takes this as
an advantage beforehand but instead smugly watched events unfold and
declares, "I KNEW this would happen!",etc. This is, imho, in part a
protective element in our psyches or an early coping mechanism that
refuses to abate or unsnarl. It is a form of denial, of course.
My first and last instinct agrees with Slip, though Pat and RP's statements obviously hold weight at least as much as causality. Someone mentioned freedom as evolving from the exercise of decision making and responsibility not too long ago. I find that agreeable, in the sense most would mean 'free will': freedom to experience thought, expression, feeling, action. That seems the fitting domain for the 'free will' term, that it is experiential, it's truth is in it's consequences (like sociology). Or democracy, or love they become real in participation.

Some argue that morality or ethics would be rendered meaningless, I would argue that determinism alone should be uninteresting to relativistic beings except to the extent that what we do today will affect our future(s). There are many 'What if's and they make life very interesting and diverse with possibility. Some think that mortality isn't just a question of time but life itself has a strong affinity to it, emerging toward affiliation through self mastery. I think the argument is still too narrow to exclude the possibility that an answer will find us in very unexpected ways.

What if our idea of time is based on a very limited conception of absolute causality, and linear progression of events? That model seems the most apparent to our innate experiences and technical observations, but we also know that time as we know it is not a constant at every place and time in our universe, space and time are a variable continuum. What may lie beyond our Plank constant perhaps many (thousands or millions) of orders in magnitude? I think a good policy is that the slightest influence outside of a local phenomenon may exert extraordinary divergence from an 'absolute' determinacy as much complexity may arise from the simplest of systems.

Just adding a few thoughts, nothing definitive the tone is for convenience. I'm curious what you all think it would mean for the past, present and future and if/how it fits your ideas.

Still working on my response to psk, taking a while with it I know.

-Ash

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