On 11 May, 23:18, Manfraco Frank Elder <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi everybody!
> Pat, so you have had this experience of being protected, I have had
> this experience too, but mine was real:

So was mine...real, that is.  I've named the entity in my response to
Gabby.  I've only seen him once, but, I expect to see him again; just,
hopefully, not for a few years.  ;-)

>One day I was walking on this
> footpath, when two or three young people jumped out of a car, one of
> them said we are going to bash you, I was scared but kept walking on
> as if I had not heard him, he repeated his threat and was about to
> charge me when a large strong man came to my rescue and took my place,
> and staring in this young chap face he said; you mean to bash me and
> who is going to do the bashing!? hmmm!
> Suddenly these youths realised that they were no mach with this man
> and jumped in the car and off they went.
>
> RP,
> <God is the mind which concieves the universe , He is the mind which
> runs it, and He is the mind which destroys it. He does not see in the
> manner in which we see each other and He does not act in the manner
> in
> which we act. His awareness and action is transcendental in nature.>
> I personally agree with your description of God, except for the
> phrase, "he is the mind which destroys it'', because in my belief God
> is part of the whole cosmos and therefore God will never want to
> destroy himself.
>
> SP,
> You that dreams about going around in the universe, and in your dreams
> you have to be part of the cosmos and you want to know if there is a
> way that links everything together, I am wondering why you do not go
> along with the idea expressed in this thread?
> My regards
> Manfraco
>
> On May 12, 12:52 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
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>
> > On 11 May, 14:57, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > I believe that Slip is coming from his own 'cosmic' vantage point, so
> > > to speak.My personal beliefs always come into play when expressing
> > > myself and, though not always agreed upon by others, they are no less
> > > relevant to our cosmic co-existance. The fact that I can relate to his
> > > way of thinking is in no way contrary to my theistic veiws. It is only
> > > natural to to look to our experiences to help support our beliefs and
> > > when I look to my own I can see times when there was serious doubt
> > > about the existance of any God. I may have scraped the whole notion
> > > had not other thing occured to re-enforce what I already 'knew'. There
> > > are many 'reasons' not to believe but the reasons to believe far out
> > > weigh them for me.
>
> > I agree.  In fact, if it weren't for one particularly strange
> > experience, I might still be in doubt.  But it's those 'rare' events
> > that don't happen to most people that, when they DO happen to one of
> > us, is absolutely convincing.  In my own case, I was confronted with
> > an entity that, for most of us, would remain 'unseen'.  But it was
> > given a visible form and served to protect me against a potential
> > threat to my life.  The individual who posed that threat has been dead
> > for some 14 years, now; but, I am still here.  So, the apparition
> > worked!!
>
> > > On May 11, 7:34 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On 11 May, 09:49, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I have seen too many surprise turn-arounds to think money is the
> > > > > measure of anything and no one knows how they will end their days.
> > > > > Plus all babies are born pretty much the same, aren't they? Why not
> > > > > say your parents were dirt poor or filthy rich or whatever?
>
> > > > I think Slip was saying that his personal wealth was gained through
> > > > self discovery and that he really wasn't speaking of material wealth.
> > > > Unless I read his heart incorrectly.
>
> > > > > On May 10, 8:41 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > Really dude, stop whatever you are doing, get a grip, we don't have
> > > > > > any "Need" to be "Supreme" and there is no drive to become anything
> > > > > > more than what we are except by people like you that constantly push
> > > > > > this idea on the world.
> > > > > > The universe is just there, accept it.
> > > > > > You want a God because of all your own personal inadequacies which 
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > want to attribute to something "out there".
> > > > > > There is nothing out there except other planets, stars and other
> > > > > > theories of strings and things.
> > > > > > Take control of yourself and your world because that is all you 
> > > > > > have,
> > > > > > from birth to death.
> > > > > > Stop trying to comprehend the "HIM" when there is no him.
> > > > > > There is only you and the 24 hour period of time you have to spend
> > > > > > your day.
> > > > > > Stop wasting your days worrying about anything beyond your own
> > > > > > personal space.
> > > > > > I was born in abject poverty and the day I discovered "ME", was the
> > > > > > day I realized my richness.  There is nothing out there that is more
> > > > > > than what is within "YOU".
> > > > > > I am happy to say that I am wealthy today because I put stock into 
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > person and not into some fantasy deity who is all knowing and a
> > > > > > vindictive control freak, and of course to whom I was supposed to 
> > > > > > give
> > > > > > 10% of my earnings to which actually goes to the purveyors of such
> > > > > > dead meat.
> > > > > > Keep falling for the bullshit and that is what you are going to wind
> > > > > > up in.
>
> > > > > > On May 7, 9:53 am, RP <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > God is the mind which concieves the universe , He is the mind 
> > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > runs it, and He is the mind which destroys it. He does not see in 
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > manner in which we see each other and He does not act in the 
> > > > > > > manner in
> > > > > > > which we act. His awareness and action is transcendental in 
> > > > > > > nature. In
> > > > > > > our vanity we may pretend to comprehend Him, but we do not see or
> > > > > > > accept the fact that our intelligence is not infinite but only a 
> > > > > > > few
> > > > > > > grades above that of animals. We have to just look at animals to
> > > > > > > realise that , after all our understanding also is finite. We are
> > > > > > > learning and growing day by day , but we are far from being 
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