On 12 May, 13:52, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote:
> Interesting that the apparition that you describe here and I believe
> in another thread uses the name Azrael.The translation to this name is
> literally the one who God helps.

Actually, I'd say it's "The Helper of God", i.e., the other way
around.  But, yes. I have mentioned him before.

>In Kabalistic lore this is the name
> of the angel of death or Malak al-Maut in Islam. Though the name
> Azrael is not referenced in the Koran it is the same character.
>

Again, correct.  "Izra'il" is mentioned in hadith but not the Qur'an.
But, yes, it was the Angel of Death.  But the whole story, if
disclosed, could reveal enough details to potentially add shame to an
old couple (the parents of the person who posed the threat), so, for
their sake, I won't divulge too much...just in case either of them
have access to the internet and may stumble across it (although they
would be quite old now, it's still possible that one or both are
alive).  I wouldn't like to think that I caused them more grief than
he did already.  And, as I DID say, he is no longer alive.

BTW, I studied kabbalah (the REAL stuff, not the Madonna-esque wearing
a red-string and think you're an expert stuff) for several years.
I've read the Zohar twice and have developed an entire way to
interpret a horoscope based on the system of letter-to-planet/sign
attributes laid down in the Sefer Yetzirah (which MAY be 'the scroll
of Abraham' alluded to in the Qur'an) with pretty amazing results.
I'd also strongly recommend 'The Bahir' as a book worth reading and re-
reading.


> On May 12, 7:50 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > On 11 May, 23:18, Manfraco Frank Elder <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > Hi everybody!
> > > Pat, so you have had this experience of being protected, I have had
> > > this experience too, but mine was real:
>
> > So was mine...real, that is.  I've named the entity in my response to
> > Gabby.  I've only seen him once, but, I expect to see him again; just,
> > hopefully, not for a few years.  ;-)
>
> > >One day I was walking on this
> > > footpath, when two or three young people jumped out of a car, one of
> > > them said we are going to bash you, I was scared but kept walking on
> > > as if I had not heard him, he repeated his threat and was about to
> > > charge me when a large strong man came to my rescue and took my place,
> > > and staring in this young chap face he said; you mean to bash me and
> > > who is going to do the bashing!? hmmm!
> > > Suddenly these youths realised that they were no mach with this man
> > > and jumped in the car and off they went.
>
> > > RP,
> > > <God is the mind which concieves the universe , He is the mind which
> > > runs it, and He is the mind which destroys it. He does not see in the
> > > manner in which we see each other and He does not act in the manner
> > > in
> > > which we act. His awareness and action is transcendental in nature.>
> > > I personally agree with your description of God, except for the
> > > phrase, "he is the mind which destroys it'', because in my belief God
> > > is part of the whole cosmos and therefore God will never want to
> > > destroy himself.
>
> > > SP,
> > > You that dreams about going around in the universe, and in your dreams
> > > you have to be part of the cosmos and you want to know if there is a
> > > way that links everything together, I am wondering why you do not go
> > > along with the idea expressed in this thread?
> > > My regards
> > > Manfraco
>
> > > On May 12, 12:52 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > On 11 May, 14:57, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > I believe that Slip is coming from his own 'cosmic' vantage point, so
> > > > > to speak.My personal beliefs always come into play when expressing
> > > > > myself and, though not always agreed upon by others, they are no less
> > > > > relevant to our cosmic co-existance. The fact that I can relate to his
> > > > > way of thinking is in no way contrary to my theistic veiws. It is only
> > > > > natural to to look to our experiences to help support our beliefs and
> > > > > when I look to my own I can see times when there was serious doubt
> > > > > about the existance of any God. I may have scraped the whole notion
> > > > > had not other thing occured to re-enforce what I already 'knew'. There
> > > > > are many 'reasons' not to believe but the reasons to believe far out
> > > > > weigh them for me.
>
> > > > I agree.  In fact, if it weren't for one particularly strange
> > > > experience, I might still be in doubt.  But it's those 'rare' events
> > > > that don't happen to most people that, when they DO happen to one of
> > > > us, is absolutely convincing.  In my own case, I was confronted with
> > > > an entity that, for most of us, would remain 'unseen'.  But it was
> > > > given a visible form and served to protect me against a potential
> > > > threat to my life.  The individual who posed that threat has been dead
> > > > for some 14 years, now; but, I am still here.  So, the apparition
> > > > worked!!
>
> > > > > On May 11, 7:34 am, Pat <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > On 11 May, 09:49, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > I have seen too many surprise turn-arounds to think money is the
> > > > > > > measure of anything and no one knows how they will end their days.
> > > > > > > Plus all babies are born pretty much the same, aren't they? Why 
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > say your parents were dirt poor or filthy rich or whatever?
>
> > > > > > I think Slip was saying that his personal wealth was gained through
> > > > > > self discovery and that he really wasn't speaking of material 
> > > > > > wealth.
> > > > > > Unless I read his heart incorrectly.
>
> > > > > > > On May 10, 8:41 pm, Slip Disc <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > > > > > Really dude, stop whatever you are doing, get a grip, we don't 
> > > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > > any "Need" to be "Supreme" and there is no drive to become 
> > > > > > > > anything
> > > > > > > > more than what we are except by people like you that constantly 
> > > > > > > > push
> > > > > > > > this idea on the world.
> > > > > > > > The universe is just there, accept it.
> > > > > > > > You want a God because of all your own personal inadequacies 
> > > > > > > > which you
> > > > > > > > want to attribute to something "out there".
> > > > > > > > There is nothing out there except other planets, stars and other
> > > > > > > > theories of strings and things.
> > > > > > > > Take control of yourself and your world because that is all you 
> > > > > > > > have,
> > > > > > > > from birth to death.
> > > > > > > > Stop trying to comprehend the "HIM" when there is no him.
> > > > > > > > There is only you and the 24 hour period of time you have to 
> > > > > > > > spend
> > > > > > > > your day.
> > > > > > > > Stop wasting your days worrying about anything beyond your own
> > > > > > > > personal space.
> > > > > > > > I was born in abject poverty and the day I discovered "ME", was 
> > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > day I realized my richness.  There is nothing out there that is 
> > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > than what is within "YOU".
> > > > > > > > I am happy to say that I am wealthy today because I put stock 
> > > > > > > > into my
> > > > > > > > person and not into some fantasy deity who is all knowing and a
> > > > > > > > vindictive control freak, and of course to whom I was supposed 
> > > > > > > > to give
> > > > > > > > 10% of my earnings to which actually goes to the purveyors of 
> > > > > > > > such
> > > > > > > > dead meat.
> > > > > > > > Keep falling for the bullshit and that is what you are going to 
> > > > > > > > wind
> > > > > > > > up in.
>
> > > > > > > > On May 7, 9:53 am, RP <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > God is the mind which concieves the universe , He is the mind 
> > > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > runs it, and He is the mind which destroys it. He does not 
> > > > > > > > > see in the
> > > > > > > > > manner in which we see each other and He does not act in the 
> > > > > > > > > manner in
> > > > > > > > > which we act. His awareness and action is transcendental in 
> > > > > > > > > nature. In
> > > > > > > > > our vanity we may pretend to comprehend Him, but we do not 
> > > > > > > > > see or
> > > > > > > > > accept the fact that our intelligence is not infinite but 
> > > > > > > > > only a few
> > > > > > > > > grades above that of animals. We have to just look at animals 
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > realise that , after all our understanding also is finite. We 
> > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > learning and growing day by day , but we are far from being 
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