On Jul 5, 8:05 pm, "pol.science kid" <[email protected]> wrote: > you mean platonic relationships?or do you mean a homosexual relationship....
The platonic would be non sexual, as I understand. It has abiding feelings ... until the moment of truth is come. As it did, in The Tale of Two Cities. It was the homosexual relationships, rather marriages, I spoke of ... with a ' Perhaps ? ...' > On Sat, Jul 3, 2010 at 1:51 AM, vamadevananda <[email protected]> wrote: > > " ... love is a choice and not a feeling." > > > Definitely, in one perspective, love as ( an abiding ) choice is more > > accurate than love as a ( fleeting ) feeling. But it's all so very > > dynamic, with changing perspectives and contexts and meanings, leading > > to different hierarchies of accuracy. > > > No wonder, it is said love is everything ! In practice, love as it is > > isn't something one would think about much or often ( in eastern > > traditions ), except perhaps during periods of separation or loss. As > > a relationship, it just continues to give strength and meaning to > > oneself and one's life, unobtrusively and inscrutably. As an emotion, > > in the internal environment appropriate to our higher nature, it fills > > one's vitality and life - force with harmony and brings peace to our > > psychic world. These are monumental developments in an individual's > > being ... in the cause of calmness of mind, sound intellectuation and > > true knowledge of oneself. > > > Perhaps ? same sex relationships are more a matter of feeling than > > commitment. > > > On Jul 2, 7:23 pm, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > We are lucky and that is what I try to impress upon others... love is > > > a choice and not a feeling. Much different from infatuation and the > > > pink clouds where everything is fluffy and light. When making the > > > conscious choice to 'be in love' with someone (as if thats a choice) > > > we are choosing all the heavy baggage and BS as well. I don't think I > > > have ever chosen NOT to love anyone but I have selected the degrees of > > > love I wish to assert (ie. "No, you carry that!" or "Let me help you > > > with that"). Being 'in love' there are only two degrees; "I love you" > > > or "I hope you die" :D > > > > On Jul 1, 8:34 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I agree with you. Aren't we lucky to have that choice? > > > > > On Jun 30, 3:16 pm, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Life sometimes plays out like a novel, different twists and turns. > > > > > Nothing like an ironic and tragic ending! At any time we may put the > > > > > book down and pick up a different one that's more agreeable and life > > > > > is such as well. > > > > > > On Jun 29, 9:28 pm, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > But thinking more about this- why were you attracted to these women > > to > > > > > > begin with? Afterall, a label might just be a fable. It can be like > > a > > > > > > "get out of jail" card, I suppose, but doesn't really solve much > > for > > > > > > the supposedly "sane" partner.//I wrote lyric poetry for a while > > and > > > > > > it had its own music without the notes- a percussion?//Keep the > > faith, > > > > > > Darkwater! Lord- I was so enchanted and amazed to read a book the > > last > > > > > > couple of days- at first. By the end I was shattered and probably > > > > > > won't read the others I've reserved at the library. Reminds me of > > > > > > love! :-) > > > > > > > On Jun 29, 7:48 am, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Sometimes, both music and words come to me like getting struck by > > > > > > > lightning. Wakes me up out of a sound sleep and I have to grab my > > > > > > > guitar and a pad and paper.. Other times I'll start with a tune > > and it > > > > > > > can take months or even years before I write the lyrics. If I > > write > > > > > > > lyrics, though, there is already a tune, in my head if not a > > comleted > > > > > > > composition. I think that out of all the women I have been with, > > there > > > > > > > might be one or two that had their stuff together but again, I > > was > > > > > > > just 'fun to play with' for a while. The rest, if not already > > > > > > > clinically diagnosed, they should be! The only long term > > > > > > > relationships I've had were with total nut bags. :P I can only > > claim > > > > > > > responsibilty for one of them though. > > > > > > > > On Jun 29, 8:02 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I used to liken it to the "Perils of Pauline" because I seemed > > to > > > > > > > > escape like that old silent film drama. Now, I consider my life > > as an > > > > > > > > interesting one- one I have tried to make sense of and I think > > I > > > > > > > > succeeded in many ways- but I'll die anyway! :-) I think > > everyday of > > > > > > > > those who have been caught up in war or sub-human conditions > > and try > > > > > > > > to be grateful and humble. My troubles and turmoil are/were > > > > > > > > miniscule.//I tried to write lyrics for a composer friend but > > found it > > > > > > > > hard to write to his competed music- I think it's easier to > > shape the > > > > > > > > music to words- how about you?//I quit drinking nearly a year > > ago and > > > > > > > > am much happier with life and others. > > > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 8:07 am, DarkwaterBlight <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Interesting that you bring up the point of 'creator types'! > > I'm a song > > > > > > > > > writer/musician and I have been greatly influenced by my > > relationships > > > > > > > > > in my music and writing. It seems when there is much turmoil > > the music > > > > > > > > > and lyrics flow. Vam is correct in saying that it's not > > possible to > > > > > > > > > succeed in turning our emotions off and truly that was never > > my intent > > > > > > > > > but as a defense mechanism I have learned to stuff them. It > > proves to > > > > > > > > > be detrimental in some ways, particularly in writing. I have > > blocked > > > > > > > > > much of my muse in trying to minimize the drama. Truth is > > that life is > > > > > > > > > just that, a set in which we all play out our own dramas. I > > was once > > > > > > > > > told by a woman I dated that I love drama and created it. I > > perceived > > > > > > > > > it as her projecting her own tendencies on me ut she may have > > been > > > > > > > > > correct to some extent. I did alot of writing around that > > time! LOL! > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 28, 5:15 am, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > A number of creator types stay single or have arrangements > > that allow > > > > > > > > > > for a good deal of freedom but that does not guarantee > > inspiration in > > > > > > > > > > and of itself. Often, creativity feeds just as well on > > pressured > > > > > > > > > > enviornments and committments.//I doubt most children feel > > better off > > > > > > > > > > without both parents but the notion of family has changed > > greatly so > > > > > > > > > > perhaps they adapt better these days. And a wretched > > marriage is > > > > > > > > > > wretched for all plus what is lonlier than a bad marriage? > > Sometimes > > > > > > > > > > it seems strange that I took to motherhood > > considering...But > > > > > > > > > > motherhood has also changed, hasn't it? > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 27, 1:49 pm, vamadevananda <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > " I have turned my emotional switch to 0." > > > > > > > > > > > > We all do that. And can never succeed, because emotions > > are another > > > > > > > > > > > name of human experience. They are ours. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, some of us are better off without life partner > > relationships. > > > > > > > > > > > Mostly, for the sake of the other. Rarely, for oneself > > ... for some > > > > > > > > > > > higher priority we must pursue. > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 27, 11:18 pm, DarkwaterBlight < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Spiritual Crisis? Yes I believe you may be correct in > > your > > > > > > > > > > > > observation. I think I have developed a willful > > ignorance or lack of > > > > > > > > > > > > empathy when it comes to emotions. I have tried to > > share my feelings > > > > > > > > > > > > to no avail and have been left dissapointed and feeling > > broken. So in > > > > > > > > > > > > an attenpt to heal I have turned my emotional switch to > > 0. I can see > > > > > > > > > > > > my own spiritual crisis and do not wish to have the > > responsibility of > > > > > > > > > > > > someone elses 'baggage' as rigsy03 has pointed out. > > After our > > > > > > > > > > > > seperation I tryed again to no avail and yet I still > > try to make that > > > > > > > > > > > > connection and keep hitting the same brick wall. I know > > the answer > > > > > > > > > > > > lies within myself but I'm not sure if I want to know > > it. I guess I > > > > > > > > > > > > like living in the dillusion that I am fine being alone > > in life. I > > > > > > > > > > > > know that is never true as we all have each other but I > > am refering to > > > > > > > > > > > > a permanant mate and partner in life. It's too easy for > > me to give up > > > > > > > > > > > > on the idea rather than trying so hard and fighting to > > keep a > > > > > > > > > > > > relationship. I know too well that there are many fish > > in the sea and > > > > > > > > > > > > I love seafood. > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 26, 12:54 pm, vamadevananda < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Emotionally draining, we literally sucked the life > > out of each > > > > > > > > > > > > > other." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you believe or are able to conceive, in the face > > of your contrary > > > > > > > > > > > > > experience, that it is possible for two people to > > graduate to ' giving > > > > > > > > > > > > > life to each other,' rather than sucking, to ' > > enriching each other > > > > > > > > > > > > > emotionally,' than draining ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you recall the movie sketching the life an > > authoress, played by > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kate Winslet, and her male live - in fan, whose > > disappointments and > > > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual crisis in later age anyone could empathise > > with ! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jun 26, 7:41 pm, DarkwaterBlight < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Truly I did have expectations, in the begining of > > my > > ... > > read more »
