On Nov 26, 3:32 pm, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't see why a person can not share them, they are part of life. I have > and find no difficulty in sharing them with others. I think Gabby that many > of the people have never really come to grips with the episodes and then > they have difficulty in sharing them.I think alot of the difficulty is > sperating themselves from the actual incident, most of the time it seems > many make it more than it really is. >
That's what I thought of my own 'ghost' experiences. I thought that other people would have been certain they actually had seen a ghost, but I'm skeptical with my own experiences and test them pretty harshly before I draw any conclusions. Many people(!), as they don't see that (skeptic) process, may doubt that, but it's true. > What the heck is wrong with being nuts? Nothing, if you happen to be the fruit of a beech tree. ;-) > Allan > > > > > > On Fri, Nov 26, 2010 at 2:47 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > If you have had those experiences, why do you still think in terms of truth > > and lie??? This doesn't make any sense to me. > > > Am 26.11.2010 14:23 schrieb "Pat" <[email protected]>: > > > On Nov 26, 12:52 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Pat, dear, I understand the negative... > > Nevertheless, that is irrelevant to my usage. > > > >To me this is a neutral scientific term. > > and THAT was how I intended it to be taken. > > > >Tell me, > > > which special ability do you have that allows you to make quantative > > > statements on ot... > > My point of view, which no one else has. ;-) > > > To be fair, until another's subjective experience is laid out in full, > > I couldn't, in detail, comment upon it. > > > If you would like to, for example, take the generic experience of > > 'seeing a ghost'; this is an experience 'most people' do not claim to > > have had, therefore most people pooh-pooh the concept, as they have no > > similar experience with which to compare. Personally, I've seen two > > things that, in my opinion, many would have thought to have been a > > ghost; however, I don't believe what I saw WAS, in fact, a ghost, as I > > know ALL the facts surrounding those experiences including the fact > > that both were 'upon awakening' and what was seen was very similar to > > the last thing about which I was dreaming. In both cases, I believe > > there was an overlapping of dream-to-waking phenomenon that made me > > think, for a moment, "wait, that looks like a ghost". But, after it > > faded, and I was able to put the dream-related information together > > with what my eyes saw, I 'thought differently' about what I'd seen. > > That's not to say I don't believe that people can see ghosts, but, as > > of yet, although I have two experiences that would have convinced > > many, I think there is a simpler explanation. > > So you see, I even put my OWN experiences to a very stringent tests > > and, only when I can find no other plausible reason, then, and only > > then, do I consider that the experience was rare indeed. > > > Generalisations ARE just that, generalisations. They don't address > > specific scenarios. If you want to talk specifics, you'll have to > > site an example and give me ALL the information regarding it. Only > > then do I stand a chance at answering any questions about it. > > > >What do you think makes > > > your experiences more special? > > I've had them and I know the full details OF them. "Most people", > > when hearing the details, would think I'm either a liar or a > > lunatic...but they weren't there and would think otherwise had they > > been. > > > > Am 26.11.2010 13:18 schrieb "Pat" <[email protected]>: > > > > On Nov 25, 5:54 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:> Pat, Pat, > > Pat... writing in his most... > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text - > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > Be Paranoid. > God is always building a better idiot!!!- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
