If you have had those experiences, why do you still think in terms of truth
and lie??? This doesn't make any sense to me.

Am 26.11.2010 14:23 schrieb "Pat" <[email protected]>:



On Nov 26, 12:52 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:
> Pat, dear, I understand the negative...
Nevertheless, that is irrelevant to my usage.


>To me this is a neutral scientific term.
and THAT was how I intended it to be taken.


>Tell me,
> which special ability do you have that allows you to make quantative
> statements on ot...
My point of view, which no one else has.  ;-)

To be fair, until another's subjective experience is laid out in full,
I couldn't, in detail, comment upon it.

If you would like to, for example, take the generic experience of
'seeing a ghost'; this is an experience 'most people' do not claim to
have had, therefore most people pooh-pooh the concept, as they have no
similar experience with which to compare.  Personally, I've seen two
things that, in my opinion, many would have thought to have been a
ghost; however, I don't believe what I saw WAS, in fact, a ghost, as I
know ALL the facts surrounding those experiences including the fact
that both were 'upon awakening' and what was seen was very similar to
the last thing about which I was dreaming.  In both cases, I believe
there was an overlapping of dream-to-waking phenomenon that made me
think, for a moment, "wait, that looks like a ghost".  But, after it
faded, and I was able to put the dream-related information together
with what my eyes saw, I 'thought differently' about what I'd seen.
That's not to say I don't believe that people can see ghosts, but, as
of yet, although I have two experiences that would have convinced
many, I think there is a simpler explanation.
So you see, I even put my OWN experiences to a very stringent tests
and, only when I can find no other plausible reason, then, and only
then, do I consider that the experience was rare indeed.

Generalisations ARE just that, generalisations.  They don't address
specific scenarios.  If you want to talk specifics, you'll have to
site an example and give me ALL the information regarding it.  Only
then do I stand a chance at answering any questions about it.


>What do you think makes
> your experiences more special?
I've had them and I know the full details OF them.  "Most people",
when hearing the details, would think I'm either a liar or a
lunatic...but they weren't there and would think otherwise had they
been.

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> Am 26.11.2010 13:18 schrieb "Pat" <[email protected]>:

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> On Nov 25, 5:54 pm, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote:> Pat, Pat,
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