WOW! I get Ash you work so that is proof of your exist. What greater proof does one need than that. Allan ( ",)
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 4:22 AM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > I have to be short right now, you are right that what I said doesn't > negate your original or following statements. > > Time, time, time... Duty calls- > > > On 12/6/2010 7:05 AM, RP Singh wrote: > > Why think of time in any sense at all , but doesn't it seem reasonable to > believe that there have always been universes and life and death will > continue in infinity whereas it is accepted that this universe began and > will end. My point is that like God Creation with a chain of universes will > continue in eternity. > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > >> RP I don't think that time exists in a substantial sense, except to >> explain sequences of events or provide reference states/events. From what we >> do know of it, if I am correct, time is relative, and I am beginning to >> think of it similarly to gravity. In my view the present can and the past >> has been affected by the future. Through this I accept causality but deny >> determinism. >> >> Now why cloak explanation in very human terms like happiness and >> loneliness? What is pleasurable and painful to this trans-being? This >> implies to me a changeful One, not eternal and omnipotent in the linear >> senses usually attributed. But something alive, with living parts which have >> an impact on the whole. Sorry if I am putting words in your mouth, care to >> clarify more? >> >> >> On 12/5/2010 11:14 PM, RP Singh wrote: >> >> Ash my meaning is that God finds his happiness in his creation and >> therefore , though universes have a beginning and an end , Creation has no >> beginning and no end as there would always be universes before and after the >> present universes. In other words there would be no beginning or end of >> time. >> >> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:25 AM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> This leads us to the question of the existence of our universe at all, >>> if a being existed: omnipresent, omniscient, eternal; what point would there >>> be to creating our universe? >>> >>> >>> On 12/5/2010 12:12 PM, RP Singh wrote: >>> >>> Francis , if creation were to have a beginning and an end the eternity of >>> God would have no meaning as it is in creation that God's presence is felt. >>> God would have become a very lonely fellow. >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:08 PM, frantheman < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> RP, I've asked the question before and I'll ask it again: >>>> >>>> Who sez? >>>> >>>> Any of us can make pronouncements ... about anything. The trick is to >>>> back them up. >>>> >>>> Francis >>>> >>>> On 5 Dez., 16:09, RP <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > There is no beginning or end of God. He is eternal. There is no >>>> > beginning or end of creation. Before this universe there were other >>>> > universes and after this universe there will be other universes. In >>>> > fact there is no point in time when there was a first universe or >>>> > there will be a last universe. God and Creation are both eternal , it >>>> > is us beings that are finite. >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- ( ) I_D Allan If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
