I object to both kinds of experience as being pleasant to the object. A reason to oppose to translating mankind as you.
On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 8:00 AM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > My wife would object and I don't cheat on my wife.. but if I was not > married I would take it under serious consideration. and you are right done > in front of policepersons and several reporters whould also have the desired > effect and be a much more pleasant experience. > Allan > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:08 AM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Even better than getting beaten is getting laid, but that wouldn't be an >> appropriate proposition now would it. *chuckles >> >> >> On 12/6/2010 1:41 PM, iam deheretic wrote: >> >> gabby did I leave out the part we will forget to tell the police offers >> you have my permission,, ;o) after we want an unbiased judgement. >> Allan >> >> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:39 PM, iam deheretic <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Gabby I do not have to backup my existence without a tombstone, that is >>> easy we will meet in some city center make sure there are several police >>> persons there the more the merrier .. then you have my permission th beat >>> the shit out of me,, now we will let those fine officers decide whether I >>> exist or not.. I would offer to reverse the roles but I have no doubt of >>> your existence and need no proof. >>> Allan >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:14 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Na, that door won't open! Just like the demand to back up your >>>> existence with your tombstone! To be a human being, Francis, the trick >>>> is to keep breathing! Just like time only exists in its substantial >>>> sense! Thanks for reminding us, RP. >>>> >>>> On 6 Dez., 15:34, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > For instance, is Julian Assange our Martin Luther? From the Diet of >>>> > Worms to our can of worms? From 95 Theses to ? Think about it. :-) >>>> > >>>> > On Dec 6, 6:05 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > Why think of time in any sense at all , but doesn't it seem >>>> reasonable to >>>> > > believe that there have always been universes and life and death >>>> will >>>> > > continue in infinity whereas it is accepted that this universe began >>>> and >>>> > > will end. My point is that like God Creation with a chain of >>>> universes will >>>> > > continue in eternity. >>>> > >>>> > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > > > RP I don't think that time exists in a substantial sense, except >>>> to >>>> > > > explain sequences of events or provide reference states/events. >>>> From what we >>>> > > > do know of it, if I am correct, time is relative, and I am >>>> beginning to >>>> > > > think of it similarly to gravity. In my view the present can and >>>> the past >>>> > > > has been affected by the future. Through this I accept causality >>>> but deny >>>> > > > determinism. >>>> > >>>> > > > Now why cloak explanation in very human terms like happiness and >>>> > > > loneliness? What is pleasurable and painful to this trans-being? >>>> This >>>> > > > implies to me a changeful One, not eternal and omnipotent in the >>>> linear >>>> > > > senses usually attributed. But something alive, with living parts >>>> which have >>>> > > > an impact on the whole. Sorry if I am putting words in your mouth, >>>> care to >>>> > > > clarify more? >>>> > >>>> > > > On 12/5/2010 11:14 PM, RP Singh wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > > Ash my meaning is that God finds his happiness in his creation and >>>> > > > therefore , though universes have a beginning and an end , >>>> Creation has no >>>> > > > beginning and no end as there would always be universes before and >>>> after the >>>> > > > present universes. In other words there would be no beginning or >>>> end of >>>> > > > time. >>>> > >>>> > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:25 AM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > >> This leads us to the question of the existence of our universe >>>> at all, if >>>> > > >> a being existed: omnipresent, omniscient, eternal; what point >>>> would there be >>>> > > >> to creating our universe? >>>> > >>>> > > >> On 12/5/2010 12:12 PM, RP Singh wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > >> Francis , if creation were to have a beginning and an end the >>>> eternity of >>>> > > >> God would have no meaning as it is in creation that God's >>>> presence is felt. >>>> > > >> God would have become a very lonely fellow. >>>> > >>>> > > >> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:08 PM, frantheman < >>>> [email protected] >>>> > > >> > wrote: >>>> > >>>> > > >>> RP, I've asked the question before and I'll ask it again: >>>> > >>>> > > >>> Who sez? >>>> > >>>> > > >>> Any of us can make pronouncements ... about anything. The trick >>>> is to >>>> > > >>> back them up. >>>> > >>>> > > >>> Francis >>>> > >>>> > > >>> On 5 Dez., 16:09, RP <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > > >>> > There is no beginning or end of God. He is eternal. There is >>>> no >>>> > > >>> > beginning or end of creation. Before this universe there were >>>> other >>>> > > >>> > universes and after this universe there will be other >>>> universes. In >>>> > > >>> > fact there is no point in time when there was a first universe >>>> or >>>> > > >>> > there will be a last universe. God and Creation are both >>>> eternal , it >>>> > > >>> > is us beings that are finite.- Hide quoted text - >>>> > >>>> > > - Show quoted text - >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ( >>> ) >>> I_D Allan >>> >>> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken >>> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> ( >> ) >> I_D Allan >> >> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken >> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, >> >> >> > > > -- > ( > ) > I_D Allan > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools, > >
