gabby did I leave out the part we will forget to tell the police
offers you have my permission,, ;o) after we want an unbiased
judgement.
Allan
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:39 PM, iam deheretic
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Gabby I do not have to backup my existence without a
tombstone, that is easy we will meet in some city center
make sure there are several police persons there the more the
merrier .. then you have my permission th beat the shit out
of me,, now we will let those fine officers decide whether I
exist or not.. I would offer to reverse the roles but I have
no doubt of your existence and need no proof.
Allan
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:14 PM, gabbydott
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Na, that door won't open! Just like the demand to back up
your
existence with your tombstone! To be a human being,
Francis, the trick
is to keep breathing! Just like time only exists in its
substantial
sense! Thanks for reminding us, RP.
On 6 Dez., 15:34, rigsy03 <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> For instance, is Julian Assange our Martin Luther? From
the Diet of
> Worms to our can of worms? From 95 Theses to ? Think
about it. :-)
>
> On Dec 6, 6:05 am, RP Singh <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > Why think of time in any sense at all , but doesn't
it seem reasonable to
> > believe that there have always been universes and
life and death will
> > continue in infinity whereas it is accepted that this
universe began and
> > will end. My point is that like God Creation with a
chain of universes will
> > continue in eternity.
>
> > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Ash
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > > RP I don't think that time exists in a substantial
sense, except to
> > > explain sequences of events or provide reference
states/events. From what we
> > > do know of it, if I am correct, time is relative,
and I am beginning to
> > > think of it similarly to gravity. In my view the
present can and the past
> > > has been affected by the future. Through this I
accept causality but deny
> > > determinism.
>
> > > Now why cloak explanation in very human terms like
happiness and
> > > loneliness? What is pleasurable and painful to this
trans-being? This
> > > implies to me a changeful One, not eternal and
omnipotent in the linear
> > > senses usually attributed. But something alive,
with living parts which have
> > > an impact on the whole. Sorry if I am putting words
in your mouth, care to
> > > clarify more?
>
> > > On 12/5/2010 11:14 PM, RP Singh wrote:
>
> > > Ash my meaning is that God finds his happiness in
his creation and
> > > therefore , though universes have a beginning and
an end , Creation has no
> > > beginning and no end as there would always be
universes before and after the
> > > present universes. In other words there would be no
beginning or end of
> > > time.
>
> > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:25 AM, Ash
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> > >> This leads us to the question of the existence of
our universe at all, if
> > >> a being existed: omnipresent, omniscient, eternal;
what point would there be
> > >> to creating our universe?
>
> > >> On 12/5/2010 12:12 PM, RP Singh wrote:
>
> > >> Francis , if creation were to have a beginning and
an end the eternity of
> > >> God would have no meaning as it is in creation
that God's presence is felt.
> > >> God would have become a very lonely fellow.
>
> > >> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:08 PM, frantheman
<[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
> > >> > wrote:
>
> > >>> RP, I've asked the question before and I'll ask
it again:
>
> > >>> Who sez?
>
> > >>> Any of us can make pronouncements ... about
anything. The trick is to
> > >>> back them up.
>
> > >>> Francis
>
> > >>> On 5 Dez., 16:09, RP <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> > >>> > There is no beginning or end of God. He is
eternal. There is no
> > >>> > beginning or end of creation. Before this
universe there were other
> > >>> > universes and after this universe there will be
other universes. In
> > >>> > fact there is no point in time when there was a
first universe or
> > >>> > there will be a last universe. God and Creation
are both eternal , it
> > >>> > is us beings that are finite.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
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I_D Allan
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
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If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
