Lee , what we see is not God but his creation.When our teachers say
you are the Self we can understand It as an idea and not as a form
which is visible to our sense. The concept of God is not visible to
our senses but is grasped by our understanding.

On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 6:41 PM, [email protected]
<[email protected]> wrote:
> And yet that too makes little sense.
>
> I think we can agree that God is all?
>
> If this is true then, whatever I see is from God, and if I can see it,
> then I must surly be using at least one of my senses to do so?
>
> On Jan 21, 6:07 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>> God is beyond the senses and not beyond the understanding.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:33 PM, [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Can you not see the contraditions in this statement RP?
>>
>> > How can God be above all pain, pleasure, sorrow and happines and yet
>> > be in an eternal state of bliss?
>>
>> > Also going back to your previouse statement.
>>
>> > 'God is said to be nirguna , that is , without attributes. He has no
>> > shape and hence cannot be seen or  felt ; he has no sound and hence
>> > cannot be heard , cannot be tasted or smelled. He is beyond awareness
>> > and thus is non-dual , we beings are dualistic and have sprung from
>> > that supreme Being who , though non-dualistic , is the source of all.
>> > His is the state of supreme bliss which is beyond the senses. Whatever
>> > we know and experience involves the senses and He is beyond the
>> > senses.'
>>
>> > How can you know what state God is in if God is beyond our
>> > understanding?  Have you not just told us what it is you understand of
>> > God's state?
>>
>> > On Jan 21, 2:39 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> It is individuals who bear pain and pleasure , sorrow and happiness ;
>> >> God is above all this  in an eternal state of supreme bliss.
>>
>> >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:13 AM, Manfraco Frank Elder
>>
>> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > Hi everybody!
>> >> > So, you are back to talk about my favourite subject, the existence or
>> >> > non existence of God. Because this religious subject interests me, I
>> >> > hope you don't mind my popping in.
>> >> > RP. Singh, your descreption of God and individual life is very close
>> >> > to the way I believe it is, well said. I hope that this thread go on
>> >> > for a while, it might be interesting to see what we may learn from
>> >> > it.
>> >> > Lee, when you say that, God is said to be many things by many people
>> >> > you are right and we all see God in a different ways I agree with you
>> >> > there.
>> >> > Anyhow I have my own beliefs about God, so, I am writing my own theory
>> >> > about God and religions, my theory at this stage is only half written,
>> >> > I will have a complete sketch of it in a few months, however if you
>> >> > would like to find out what I am writing click on the link hereunder,
>> >> > and follow the links that you find in my site.
>> >> >https://sites.google.com/site/prayersofreconciliation/
>> >> > Hoping that my link works for you,
>> >> > Let me know what you think if you read my religious writings
>> >> > Manfraco
>>
>> >> > On Jan 20, 8:45 pm, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> >> > wrote:
>> >> >> Heh yes of course.  But God is said to be many things by many people.
>> >> >> Some say there is no God, some say that God is called Allah, some say
>> >> >> that all Gods are but aspects of the one God.
>>
>> >> >> What one may belive of God is of course up to the individual.  What
>> >> >> you claim must be true, or so you belive, but I belive otherwise.  Now
>> >> >> how to tell what truth is objective huh!
>>
>> >> >> On Jan 19, 7:15 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> >> >> > God is said to be nirguna , that is , without attributes. He has no
>> >> >> > shape and hence cannot be seen or  felt ; he has no sound and hence
>> >> >> > cannot be heard , cannot be tasted or smelled. He is beyond awareness
>> >> >> > and thus is non-dual , we beings are dualistic and have sprung from
>> >> >> > that supreme Being who , though non-dualistic , is the source of all.
>> >> >> > His is the state of supreme bliss which is beyond the senses. 
>> >> >> > Whatever
>> >> >> > we know and experience involves the senses and He is beyond the
>> >> >> > senses.
>>
>> >> >> > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:05 PM, [email protected]
>>
>> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> > > I almost agree with you RP.  But of course it is possible to
>> >> >> > > experiance such bliss whilst still alive, not easy, but possible.
>>
>> >> >> > > On Jan 19, 2:49 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> > >> All are different , some are incompetent , some competent; some 
>> >> >> > >> are
>> >> >> > >> fools , others are brilliant ; some are esteemed , others 
>> >> >> > >> despicable;
>> >> >> > >> and so on and on. But in reality all are equal as all are made 
>> >> >> > >> from
>> >> >> > >> the One , Godself , and to that Godself all eventually go and find
>> >> >> > >> eternal peace , the supreme bliss which can be understood but 
>> >> >> > >> never
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