No my friend, I refer to the idea that our senses sense and our brain interprets this sense data.
Without our senses we would have ahard time indeed gathering knowledge. Unless of course you look upon God as an abstract idea? Myself I see, hence I sense Gods presance throughout the creation. Wthout this sensing then ouir knowledge would indeed lack something. I mentioned the old tale of the 5 blind men and the elephant, I assume you know this? On Jan 24, 6:03 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > The grasping power of the mind is not a sense , unless of course you > are speaking of consciousness which is behind all the senses including > our understanding. But consciousness in itself is not God, it is a > proof of Presence and the fact that we are emanations from a living > entity and not a dead nothing. In fact if you look at the word > "nothing " you see it is " no thing " that is neti , neti. > > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:20 PM, [email protected] > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Heh well apart form the fact that I disagree on that one. > > > Are not our senses instument in our understnding? That is without the > > sense to sense, then our understanding is lacking. I'm thinking of > > the old tale about the 5 blindmen and the elephant. > > > On Jan 24, 2:37 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Lee , what we see is not God but his creation.When our teachers say > >> you are the Self we can understand It as an idea and not as a form > >> which is visible to our sense. The concept of God is not visible to > >> our senses but is grasped by our understanding. > > >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 6:41 PM, [email protected] > > >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > And yet that too makes little sense. > > >> > I think we can agree that God is all? > > >> > If this is true then, whatever I see is from God, and if I can see it, > >> > then I must surly be using at least one of my senses to do so? > > >> > On Jan 21, 6:07 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> God is beyond the senses and not beyond the understanding. > > >> >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:33 PM, [email protected] > > >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> > Can you not see the contraditions in this statement RP? > > >> >> > How can God be above all pain, pleasure, sorrow and happines and yet > >> >> > be in an eternal state of bliss? > > >> >> > Also going back to your previouse statement. > > >> >> > 'God is said to be nirguna , that is , without attributes. He has no > >> >> > shape and hence cannot be seen or felt ; he has no sound and hence > >> >> > cannot be heard , cannot be tasted or smelled. He is beyond awareness > >> >> > and thus is non-dual , we beings are dualistic and have sprung from > >> >> > that supreme Being who , though non-dualistic , is the source of all. > >> >> > His is the state of supreme bliss which is beyond the senses. Whatever > >> >> > we know and experience involves the senses and He is beyond the > >> >> > senses.' > > >> >> > How can you know what state God is in if God is beyond our > >> >> > understanding? Have you not just told us what it is you understand of > >> >> > God's state? > > >> >> > On Jan 21, 2:39 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> It is individuals who bear pain and pleasure , sorrow and happiness ; > >> >> >> God is above all this in an eternal state of supreme bliss. > > >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:13 AM, Manfraco Frank Elder > > >> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> > Hi everybody! > >> >> >> > So, you are back to talk about my favourite subject, the existence > >> >> >> > or > >> >> >> > non existence of God. Because this religious subject interests me, > >> >> >> > I > >> >> >> > hope you don't mind my popping in. > >> >> >> > RP. Singh, your descreption of God and individual life is very > >> >> >> > close > >> >> >> > to the way I believe it is, well said. I hope that this thread go > >> >> >> > on > >> >> >> > for a while, it might be interesting to see what we may learn from > >> >> >> > it. > >> >> >> > Lee, when you say that, God is said to be many things by many > >> >> >> > people > >> >> >> > you are right and we all see God in a different ways I agree with > >> >> >> > you > >> >> >> > there. > >> >> >> > Anyhow I have my own beliefs about God, so, I am writing my own > >> >> >> > theory > >> >> >> > about God and religions, my theory at this stage is only half > >> >> >> > written, > >> >> >> > I will have a complete sketch of it in a few months, however if you > >> >> >> > would like to find out what I am writing click on the link > >> >> >> > hereunder, > >> >> >> > and follow the links that you find in my site. > >> >> >> >https://sites.google.com/site/prayersofreconciliation/ > >> >> >> > Hoping that my link works for you, > >> >> >> > Let me know what you think if you read my religious writings > >> >> >> > Manfraco > > >> >> >> > On Jan 20, 8:45 pm, "[email protected]" > >> >> >> > <[email protected]> > >> >> >> > wrote: > >> >> >> >> Heh yes of course. But God is said to be many things by many > >> >> >> >> people. > >> >> >> >> Some say there is no God, some say that God is called Allah, some > >> >> >> >> say > >> >> >> >> that all Gods are but aspects of the one God. > > >> >> >> >> What one may belive of God is of course up to the individual. > >> >> >> >> What > >> >> >> >> you claim must be true, or so you belive, but I belive otherwise. > >> >> >> >> Now > >> >> >> >> how to tell what truth is objective huh! > > >> >> >> >> On Jan 19, 7:15 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> >> >> >> > God is said to be nirguna , that is , without attributes. He > >> >> >> >> > has no > >> >> >> >> > shape and hence cannot be seen or felt ; he has no sound and > >> >> >> >> > hence > >> >> >> >> > cannot be heard , cannot be tasted or smelled. He is beyond > >> >> >> >> > awareness > >> >> >> >> > and thus is non-dual , we beings are dualistic and have sprung > >> >> >> >> > from > >> >> >> >> > that supreme Being who , though non-dualistic , is the source > >> >> >> >> > of all. > >> >> >> >> > His is the state of supreme bliss which is beyond the senses. > >> >> >> >> > Whatever > >> >> >> >> > we know and experience involves the senses and He is beyond the > >> >> >> >> > senses. > > >> >> >> >> > On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:05 PM, [email protected] > > >> >> >> >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > > I almost agree with you RP. But of course it is possible to > >> >> >> >> > > experiance such bliss whilst still alive, not easy, but > >> >> >> >> > > possible. > > >> >> >> >> > > On Jan 19, 2:49 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> > >> All are different , some are incompetent , some competent; > >> >> >> >> > >> some are > >> >> >> >> > >> fools , others are brilliant ; some are esteemed , others > >> >> >> >> > >> despicable; > >> >> >> >> > >> and so on and on. But in reality all are equal as all are > >> >> >> >> > >> made from > >> >> >> >> > >> the One , Godself , and to that Godself all eventually go > >> >> >> >> > >> and find > >> >> >> >> > >> eternal peace , the supreme bliss which can be understood > >> >> >> >> > >> but never > >> >> >> >> > >> experienced while in this body.- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >> >> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >> >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > >> - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
